These are outstanding routes, Joe. I'm not sure about Joe Cocker's cooking, but the rest looks wonderful. Tom
--- "Loss, Joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > George, Yeh I guess we can start discussing more > detailed plans. I was > thinking we'd plan a group ride for both the > Saturday and Sunday. I imagine > some will plan to leave on Sunday too (maybe some > during the ride) so the > main ride will be on Saturday. For the main ride I'd > suggest the following: > > SATURDAY: Frisco, Leadville (Hwy 24), Independence > Pass (Hwy 82), Aspen, > Carbondale, McClure Pass (Hwy 133), Hotchkiss, lunch > at the Mad Dog Ranch in > Crawford (Joe Cocker's biker hangout) (Hwy 92), > Black Canyon of the Gunnison, > Gunnison (Hwy 50), Buena Vista (Hwy 24), Frisco. > > This awesome ride takes in a loop of some of the > best roads and scenery in > Colorado. The only downside may be that it is 400 > miles. This would be about > 7-8 hrs (conservatively) of riding, so if we left at > 7AM we'd probably be > back at around 6pm allowing 3 hours or so for lunch > and stops. I think it's > well worth doing but I realize there will be all > types of riders amongst us > and some may consider it too much for one day. At > Carbondale there is an > alternative and much shorter way back to Frisco that > can be taken by those > seeking a more relaxed day. This goes onto Glenwood > Springs and back via I70 > and is maybe a 250-300 mile loop. I70 is a little > boring IMO but for first > timers it's a pleasant ride especially through > Glenwood Canyon. This would > mean we'd all ride together at least as far as > Carbondale and we could get > some great pictures of all the GTSs at Independence > pass. > > For Sunday I was thinking of something a little more > relaxed: > > SUNDAY: Frisco, Keystone (Swan Mt Road), Loveland > Pass (Hwy 6), top of Mount > Evans and back (I70 briefly), Peak to Peak Hwy (Hwy > 119), to Estes Park > (lunch), Rocky Mountain National Park (Hwy 34), > Grand Lake, Winter Park (Hwy > 40), Georgetown (I70 briefly), Frisco. This is 300 > miles and the National > Park is not particularly fun to ride (can't ride at > speed) but is very > spectacular for first timers. I don't think > traffic/crowds in the Park will > be too bad but still might be a little bit of a > pain. > > OR > > SUNDAY (Alternate): Frisco, Keystone (Swan Mt Road), > Loveland Pass (Hwy 6), > top of Mount Evans and back (I70 briefly), Peak to > Peak Hwy (Hwy 119), to > Nederland (lunch), Coal Creek Canyon (Hwy 72), Hwy > 93 to Golden Gate Canyon > (Hwy 46), Hwy 119 to I70, Georgetown (I70 briefly), > Loveland Pass (Hwy 6), > Keystone (Swan Mt Road), Frisco. This is similar to > the above ride but avoids > Rocky Mountain National Park and instead takes in a > couple of very nice > canyon rides. It's about 200 miles. Also, Thor > Metzinger mentioned something > about hosting a BBQ and this could be combined into > this ride as a lunch stop > as it goes right by Golden. > > What does everyone think? > > Once we decide on the rides I'll make some maps to > hand out to everyone and > include some notes, itinerary, etc. > > By the way George, I'm not the organizer of this > event. I just don't mind > organizing a lot of the details. Maybe I'm being a > little over-cautious but > for legal reasons I think it might be wise to keep > this gathering as purely > an unofficial rally/gathering. We are all organizing > (and responsible for) > ourselves, arranging our own accommodation etc. Just > a bunch of guys that > decided to get together one weekend and go for a > ride. > > Cheers Joe. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: George C. Paramithas > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 10:45 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: GTS gathering > > > Guys, I need detailed input (i.e what's a must see, > best roads to ride and > BTW I hate the interstate on a bike) for the > following states: New Mexico, > Arizona, Utah and Colorado. We plan to trailer to > Albuquerque and then ride > the above 4 states prior to and maybe even after our > gathering. If any of you > would like to hook up I'll be more than glad to get > together for riding, > dinner and/or beers. As I get our scheduled > established and carved in stone I > can let you know the particulars of when we'll be > coming your way. > > Which brings me to my second point. Have we > formulated concrete ideas yet as > to what we will do during our gathering (SAs keep > yer silly thoughts to yer > selves). Meaning, will we do group rides Saturday > and Sunday and if so in > what direction? For example, if we head south Sunday > my group can check out > of the hotel Sunday morning, ride with you guys and > then continue on to New > Mexico. Maybe so much detail has not yet been > generated so lets start talking > about it. Joe, since you're the organizer have you > given it any thought? > > That's all for now > George > > ====================================================================================== > NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential > and privileged information that is for the sole use > of the intended recipient. Any viewing, copying or > distribution of, or reliance on this message by > unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you > have received this message in error, please notify > us immediately by replying to the message and > deleting it from your computer. > > ============================================================================== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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