Joe, I checked out your weekend ride proposal on my map and it looks just
peachy to me. I always wanted to visit Joe's establishment on a bike but do
you think we can get him to sing a ballad or two for us? One more thing, as
many as we will be you may want to make reservations at the eateries ahead
of time to make sure they will have enough room & food to feed us
all......and in the way I am accustomed to eating.

Buddha belly George

----- Original Message -----
From: "Loss, Joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 9:46 AM
Subject: GTS gathering - ride plans


> George, Yeh I guess we can start discussing more detailed plans. I was
> thinking we'd plan a group ride for both the Saturday and Sunday. I
imagine
> some will plan to leave on Sunday too (maybe some during the ride) so the
> main ride will be on Saturday. For the main ride I'd suggest the
following:
>
> SATURDAY: Frisco, Leadville (Hwy 24), Independence Pass (Hwy 82), Aspen,
> Carbondale, McClure Pass (Hwy 133), Hotchkiss, lunch at the Mad Dog Ranch
in
> Crawford (Joe Cocker's biker hangout) (Hwy 92), Black Canyon of the
Gunnison,
> Gunnison (Hwy 50), Buena Vista (Hwy 24), Frisco.
>
> This awesome ride takes in a loop of some of the best roads and scenery in
> Colorado. The only downside may be that it is 400 miles. This would be
about
> 7-8 hrs (conservatively) of riding, so if we left at 7AM we'd probably be
> back at around 6pm allowing 3 hours or so for lunch and stops. I think
it's
> well worth doing but I realize there will be all types of riders amongst
us
> and some may consider it too much for one day. At Carbondale there is an
> alternative and much shorter way back to Frisco that can be taken by those
> seeking a more relaxed day. This goes onto Glenwood Springs and back via
I70
> and is maybe a 250-300 mile loop. I70 is a little boring IMO but for first
> timers it's a pleasant ride especially through Glenwood Canyon. This would
> mean we'd all ride together at least as far as Carbondale and we could get
> some great pictures of all the GTSs at Independence pass.
>
> For Sunday I was thinking of something a little more relaxed:
>
> SUNDAY: Frisco, Keystone (Swan Mt Road), Loveland Pass (Hwy 6), top of
Mount
> Evans and back (I70 briefly), Peak to Peak Hwy (Hwy 119), to Estes Park
> (lunch), Rocky Mountain National Park (Hwy 34), Grand Lake, Winter Park
(Hwy
> 40), Georgetown (I70 briefly), Frisco. This is 300 miles and the National
> Park is not particularly fun to ride (can't ride at speed) but is very
> spectacular for first timers. I don't think traffic/crowds in the Park
will
> be too bad but still might be a little bit of a pain.
>
> OR
>
> SUNDAY (Alternate): Frisco, Keystone (Swan Mt Road), Loveland Pass (Hwy
6),
> top of Mount Evans and back (I70 briefly), Peak to Peak Hwy (Hwy 119), to
> Nederland (lunch), Coal Creek Canyon (Hwy 72), Hwy 93 to Golden Gate
Canyon
> (Hwy 46), Hwy 119 to I70, Georgetown (I70 briefly), Loveland Pass (Hwy 6),
> Keystone (Swan Mt Road), Frisco. This is similar to the above ride but
avoids
> Rocky Mountain National Park and instead takes in a couple of very nice
> canyon rides. It's about 200 miles. Also, Thor Metzinger mentioned
something
> about hosting a BBQ and this could be combined into this ride as a lunch
stop
> as it goes right by Golden.
>
> What does everyone think?
>
> Once we decide on the rides I'll make some maps to hand out to everyone
and
> include some notes, itinerary, etc.
>
> By the way George, I'm not the organizer of this event. I just don't mind
> organizing a lot of the details. Maybe I'm being a little over-cautious
but
> for legal reasons I think it might be wise to keep this gathering as
purely
> an unofficial rally/gathering. We are all organizing (and responsible for)
> ourselves, arranging our own accommodation etc. Just a bunch of guys that
> decided to get together one weekend and go for a ride.
>
> Cheers Joe.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: George C. Paramithas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 10:45 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: GTS gathering
>
>
> Guys, I need detailed input (i.e what's a must see, best roads to ride and
> BTW I hate the interstate on a bike) for the following states: New Mexico,
> Arizona, Utah and Colorado. We plan to trailer to Albuquerque and then
ride
> the above 4 states prior to and maybe even after our gathering. If any of
you
> would like to hook up I'll be more than glad to get together for riding,
> dinner and/or beers. As I get our scheduled established and carved in
stone I
> can let you know the particulars of when we'll be coming your way.
>
> Which brings me to my second point. Have we formulated concrete ideas yet
as
> to what we will do during our gathering (SAs keep yer silly thoughts to
yer
> selves). Meaning, will we do group rides Saturday and Sunday and if so in
> what direction? For example, if we head south Sunday my group can check
out
> of the hotel Sunday morning, ride with you guys and then continue on to
New
> Mexico. Maybe so much detail has not yet been generated so lets start
talking
> about it. Joe, since you're the organizer have you given it any thought?
>
> That's all for now
> George
>
>
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