--- On Sat, 9/10/11, Onno Meyer <[email protected]> wrote: > Brandon wrote: > > As a result, the more men a combat vehicle carried, > the > > better the armor it had. The 'Infantry Carrier, > Tracked, M-1' (as the US > > designated it) reflected that philosophy, offering > fairly good (almost tank-like) > > protection for it's three crew and six dismounts. The > idea was not > > well-received by the Allies, who also didn't like the > weight (21 tons), speed (32 > > mph) or small number of soldiers carried. > > Would the Atlantean proposal of an assault rifle have gone > with > a matching SAW and a smaller infantry squad?
Yes, and I plan for them to make a second offer that will be harder to refuse. > > Things changed after the invasion of Italy in 1943. > The Martians, fearing > > the tide was turning too far against the Axis, began > overtly aiding them > > (completely abandoning their treaty with the > Atlanteans and dragging them > > into the war). this included releasing large stocks of > their infamous 'black > > smoke' which were then used as the filler in artillery > shells and dispersal > > bombs. Allied infantry, either on foot or in open > trucks and halftracks, > > were decimated. Only those soldiers in the sealed > M-1A1's were fully > > protected. > > Was the Martian smoke more deadly than mere human gas? As at least one of my players is on this list, I'll just say it's worse than mustard gas. > And there were early NBC suits, I think. Rush them into > production and general issue? I'd have to check on chemical suits, but it's possible. > > This created some friction with the Atlanteans, as > accusations flew that > > they knew what the Martians had planned and had > callously not told Allied > > command. The Atlanteans claimed that sealing combat > vehicles was merely > > standard design practice for them. > > Learn to trust the Atlaneans, even if you don't understand > why. > They know better. They're good. They're God (or Goddess, as > it > may be). The Allies don't want their survival to be dependent on a group they barely know. > > Two standard bazookas are affixed to mounting brackets > on the right side > > of the turret but can be removed in a matter of > seconds. The electrically > > fired rockets have their leads connected to insulated > posts on the side of > > the turret, which allows the commander to fire either > or both from inside. A > > total of twelve rockets are carried (two in the > tubes). The bazookas are > > really intended for use by the dismounts but are > carried in a fashion to > > allow them to also be used as emergency anti-tank > weapons for the vehicle. It > > was intended to eventually replace these with > semi-permanent 57mm recoilless > > rifles, which were still in development. > > Was the problem of getting bazookas inside an issue? The original bazooka tube couldn't be broken down for transport, meaning you had to find a place to carry a long tube. > And > would an > externally mounted RR be effective? How about aiming? I assume they would be set to fire at tank-sized objects at 100 yards, the 1/2D range for the weapon. Otherwise, though, accuracy would leave something to be desired. > > Six > > troops are carried and exit either via two roof > hatches or a rear drop ramp. > > They sit facing each other, in the rear section of the > vehicle, with the > > cargo evenly split on the walls behind them. > > No firing ports, then? No. > > Subassemblies: Sealed Medium Tank chassis +4, > full-rotation Small AFV > > turret [Body:T] +3, full-rotation Mini Weapon open > mount [Tur:T] +0, tracks +3. > > One OM is AWOL. The bazooka brackets were a last second addition to the design and the changes didn't all get included, it seems. > > Weaponry > > 37mm Medium Ground AC/M-1 [Turret:F] (120). > > One could argue that the 25mm cannon in the Bradley is > really > just a HMG on steroids, to go after the kind of target a > HMG > could handle in WWII -- armored cars, cheap APCs, trucks at > > long range, perhaps even aircraft if you could hit them. > > So why go for a 37mm gun, and not a 20mm gun with more > ammo? Since the US armored car of the time -- M-8 Greyhound -- used a 37mm tank gun, they were not likely to object to a 37mm gun in a recon support vehicle. As to why the Atlanteans picked a 37mm gun. maybe they do know something they aren't telling the Allies ;) > > Ground LMG/M-1919A4 [Tur:F] (2,500). > > Very Long Ground HMG/M-2HB [OM1:F] (400). > > Would that go with the Atlantean doctrine of staying under > armor, or was it a human addition? They knew the humans would ant an AA gun and included one. > > 2x2.36" rocket launchers/M-1 bazookas (OM2:F) (12). > > > > Equipment > > Body: Fire extinguisher, NBC kit (10-man), medium > radio receiver and > > transmitter. Turret: 4 smoke dischargers. > > How about active IR? Hadn't actually occurred to me. > And a second radio? TL7 AFVs tend to have two. Hmm. Yes, probably a short range for contact with other scout vehicles and a longer-ranged one for battalio HQ or artillery batteries. Brandon _______________________________________________ GurpsNet-L mailing list <[email protected]> http://mail.sjgames.com/mailman/listinfo/gurpsnet-l
