Hi, Windows tab has been replaced by windows t. makes more scence actually. Getting rid of narrator is a simple matter of exiting the program. After you start if. If you don't exit it will start again on the next reboot. This is what happens in xp as well. Hth
-----Original Message----- From: erik burggraaf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 9:26 AM To: raj Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: New Computer advice Hi Raj, Windows key U still brings up narrater. The trick is, that once you have narrater turned on, it can be wicked hard to turn it off. One other key they trashed is windows tab to get to the task bar, as I found out when I tried to show that to a client. I wonder if you can get it back by turning off some modern task bar options? It's dead useful. Maybe I will have a look on my sister's machine this weekend. Best, Erik erik burggraaf Certified Technician Assistive Computing LTD Support and training Sales department: 888-828-2445 Support and Training: 888-255-5194 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website coming soon On 1-Aug-08, at 6:16 AM, raj wrote: > Hi, I agree with John regarding xp and vista. > > I have a high-end machine running Vista, and my brother has the same > machine > running xp, and it is amazing to see the difference. Even though > vista is > more secured, it is a pain to worked with compared with xp, > especially if it > is a new user, if I have my way, I will recommend any day xp for a > new user, > and wait for vista to grow-up/mature. Correct me if I am wrong, but > apart > from some crazy changes with applications such as in window mail, > they have > taken away features such as pushing the window key and pressing u > twice to > shut down, and window + u to call narrator which I feel is essential > for us > all at some point. I know many many sighted advance users who > complains and > rage when using vista. So, if security is the issue here, then vista > is the > way to go, but if smooth operation is what one is looking for, then > xp it > is. > > Regards, > > Raj > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:41 PM > Subject: Re: New Computer advice > > >> Are you denying the fact that Vista requires a far more powerful >> machine than XP? >> That was the basis of my advice. What is so bad about it? >> >> Besides, it is widely agreed here that Window-Eyes runs slower on >> Vista. It is only sensible to wait a little longer before moving >> over to > Vista. >> Please kindly read the mesages carefully before attacking them >> >> >> At 04:25 01/08/2008, you wrote: >>> bad advice! >>> vista is far more secure then xp will ever be. >>> it prevents root kits from being installed, its startup files do not >>> load in the same order every time when you boot, makeing it harder >>> for malware and key loggers to install, >>> if you run as a standard user most viruses will not install unless >>> you give it elivated administrator privlages >>> you don't have this kind of security with xp even with sp3. >>> From: "John G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 7:52 PM >>> Subject: Re: New Computer advice >>>> Helen >>>> my advice would be to stick to XP, better still, XP Pro. Vista is >>>> still in its infancy and I for one wouldn't touch it with a barge >>>> pole. >>>> I think Dell still supports XP Pro on its business machines. >>>> Vista is extremely resource hungry. If you chose XP you wouldn't >>>> have to spend much on the hardware for an impressively fast system. >>>> John >>>> >>>> At 03:28 01/08/2008, you wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> I am considering buying a new computer. It seems as though most >>>>> of them come with Windows Vista instead of XP. I have heard some >>>>> horror stories about Vista, that I am hesitant about upgrading to >>>>> it from XP. How does vista work with Window-eyes? Any feedback >>>>> would be greatly appreciated. >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Helen >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >>>>> sender only. 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