Hi,
they didn't trash it, they moved it. it's windows T.

Chris
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 09:25:57 -0700, erik burggraaf
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hi Raj,
>
>Windows key U still brings up narrater.  The trick is, that once you  
>have narrater turned on, it can be wicked hard to turn it off.  One  
>other key they trashed is windows tab to get to the task bar, as I  
>found out when I tried to show that to a client.  I wonder if you can  
>get it back by turning off some modern task bar options?  It's dead  
>useful.  Maybe I will have a look on my sister's machine this weekend.
>
>Best,
>Erik
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>On 1-Aug-08, at 6:16 AM, raj wrote:
>
>> Hi, I agree with John regarding xp and vista.
>>
>> I have a high-end machine running Vista, and my brother has the same  
>> machine
>> running xp, and it is amazing to see the difference. Even though  
>> vista is
>> more secured, it is a pain to worked with compared with xp,  
>> especially if it
>> is a new user, if I have my way, I will recommend any day xp for a  
>> new user,
>> and wait for vista to grow-up/mature. Correct me if I am wrong, but  
>> apart
>> from some crazy changes with applications such as in window mail,  
>> they have
>> taken away features such as pushing the window key and pressing u  
>> twice to
>> shut down, and window + u to call narrator which I feel is essential  
>> for us
>> all at some point. I know many many sighted advance users who  
>> complains and
>> rage when using vista. So, if security is the issue here, then vista  
>> is the
>> way to go, but if smooth operation is what one is looking for, then  
>> xp it
>> is.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Raj
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: New Computer advice
>>
>>
>>> Are you denying the fact that Vista requires a far more powerful
>>> machine than XP?
>>> That was the basis of my advice. What is so bad about it?
>>>
>>> Besides, it is widely agreed here that Window-Eyes runs slower on
>>> Vista. It is only sensible to wait a little longer before moving  
>>> over to
>> Vista.
>>> Please kindly read the mesages carefully before attacking them
>>>
>>>
>>> At 04:25 01/08/2008, you wrote:
>>>> bad advice!
>>>> vista is far more secure then xp will ever be.
>>>> it prevents root kits from being installed, its startup files do not
>>>> load in the same order every time when you boot, makeing it harder
>>>> for malware and key loggers to install,
>>>> if you run as a standard user most viruses will not install unless
>>>> you give it elivated administrator privlages
>>>> you don't have this kind of security with xp even with sp3.
>>>> From: "John G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 7:52 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: New Computer advice
>>>>> Helen
>>>>> my advice would be to stick to XP, better still, XP Pro. Vista is
>>>>> still in its infancy and I for one wouldn't touch it with a barge  
>>>>> pole.
>>>>> I think Dell still supports XP Pro on its business machines.
>>>>> Vista is extremely resource hungry. If you chose XP you wouldn't
>>>>> have to spend much on the hardware for an impressively fast system.
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>> At 03:28 01/08/2008, you wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> I am considering buying a new computer.  It seems as though most
>>>>>> of them come with Windows Vista instead of XP.  I have heard some
>>>>>> horror stories about Vista, that I am hesitant about upgrading to
>>>>>> it from XP.  How does vista work with Window-eyes?  Any feedback
>>>>>> would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Helen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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