David, How can you run two screen readers at the same time, without interfering with the keyboard Map? Are you referring if one Screen Reader crash you start another one up? I am talking about two screen readers load up at the same time. Not running independent.
Matt. -----Original Message----- From: David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 1:49 PM To: WE English mailing list Subject: Re: WE 7 Beta 3 issues and priorities Becuse, you will find it more helpful to have the ability to CO-RUN another screen reader along with WE, in many cases. When my WE decides to go for coffee, and I am not a coffee drinker, it sure is nice to have NVDA popping up by the press of a hotkey. If WE did block the achine from running other screen readers at the same time, like SA as you mentioned, you are hopelessly lost, IF the computer so decides. ----- Original Message ----- From: "K. Matthew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 7:31 PM Subject: RE: WE 7 Beta 3 issues and priorities > One issue I called GW about, I highly doubt will ever get implemented, is > a > fail safe system, of checking if another screen reader is present before > fireing up it self. As I've been able to lock up several system from > accidently having two screen readers popping up during log on into > windows. > > SA has this feature. Why can't Window eyes? > > Matt > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael D. Lawler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 12:11 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: WE 7 Beta 3 issues and priorities > > Bob, we do plan on implementing the ability to use tone in the new > Eloquence driver just like it is done in SAPI. If this doesn't make > 7.0 it is a synthesizer driver change so we will be able to make it > available when it is done. Now to address your frustrations. Feel > free to call us as tone doesn't always come through in email, but > since you put this on the list I'll address it on the list. > > 1. We have only had your request and maybe one or two more for the > Eloquence change. We are going to do it, but it wasn't as high of a > priority as other issues as we have to do the most requested items first. > 2. For the IE Read-To-End thing you do have work arounds. Turn it > to read nothing and manually press control-shift-r is the most > reliable approach. I have talked to you several times and generally > see you as a rational minded person. Do you honestly feel that we > should spend time on code that is going to be completely rewritten > for 7.0 to address this? Keep in mind it didn't completely work in > 6.1 and it would take a lot of time to try to get it working as well > as it did in 6.1 without introducing regressions. Note that the > problem has nothing to do with scripting. It has to do with changes > we did to read-to-end to make it more reliable. Since there is a > work around I just don't see this as practical. Your assertion that > we are just like FS and that WE isn't rock solid just isn't fair. I > work here and don't get every bug/feature that I'm personally > interested in addressed as quickly as I would like, but I don't just > find a new job because GW isn't doing exactly what I want. I just > don't feel that your accusation is fair as we will address the issues > in the most time effective manner and ultimately it will be far > better than it was in 6.1. We all have to work together on issues > and I feel that my work around is acceptable until we can come up > with a better more full proof solution. > > > > At 09:11 PM 9/11/2008, you wrote: >>Sam, I also agree that the loss of speech issue should be resolved before >>a >>full release comes out. There are two more things that I can think of >>that >>should also be fixed >> >>First, the read to end problem was broken with WE 7 betas and apparently >>GW >>Micro is not going to fix this problem before version seven comes out. I >>thought that GW Micro was dedicated to releasing a rock solid product, but > I >>guess they are just spouting words, like FS. >> >>Another problem that needs to be fixed is that with the new eloquence, the >>voice tone can not be changed. That is very important to many users. >> >>I hope that GW Micro reconsiders releasing a broken product, cause Rock >>Solid sure doesn't apply to version 7 beta 3! >> >>Bob Tinney, K8LR, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Skype, bobtinn >>Original Message ----- >>From: Sam bushman >>To: [email protected] >>Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 8:31 PM >>Subject: WE 7 Beta 3 issues and priorities >> >> >>Hi all, >> >>Is it possible to get a beta 3 priorities list together? >>I like it when we find bugs report them they are duplicated and fixed for >>the next version. >> >>But, we need to start to focus on the most important issues / a priority >>list if you will. >>In other words ... many of us are reporting the same things over and over. >>I agree they are problems but, GW has basically said they aren't working >>on >>msaa stuff. >>So, email, web browsers pdf files (any thing that uses msaa is not the >>focus). >>It doesn't matter if we agree that is the proper order ... that is what is >>set for fix / release. >> >>I personally would have rerote the msaa / browse mode stuff way before I >>would have added power point / itunes and scripting. >>But, GW has the list of what they think best and we need to trust them and >>be part of the solution for the next release ... isn't that what we agree > to >>when we use / run the beta. >> >>Now please don't email the list debating with the above and the pros and >>cons of this are. >>I am not trying to speak for GW and am just repeating what I personally >>think they said and ment. >> >>Personally the loss of speech is the biggest issue for me. >>I lost speach yesterday ... couldn't get it back for the life of me. >>I had a sighted daughter say that we was running and she clicked around >>and >>the computer was working perfectly. >>She didn't know why the speach was not happening but, I had her click on > the >>system tray icon for WE and exit the program. >>It exited cleanly and I just pressed ctrl-alt-w and we came back to life. >>No errors of any kind and when I tried to send an error report WE said > there >>were no errors to report. >>The sad part about this is I was not able to get GW any info to help > resolve >>this (huge!) loss of speach issue. >>Since we would like WE to be rock solid and would love to have speech as >>reliable as the screen output ... I am hoping all of us can come up with a >>way to duplicate and help GW resolve this main issue. >> >>Any ideas on this? >> >>If GW could give us a list of things we should try and do in order when we >>loose speech we may get them more info that would be helpful. >>Currently I know that the story I just told about loss of speech above >>doesn't help them at all. >>But, If I know exactly what they are looking for and what they want me to > do >>in order and reported solid step by step info ... they could get to the >>bottom of this. >> >>Any ideas are welcome. >>Any one else think the loss of speech issue is bar none the biggest issue >>for us? >> >>Thanks for listening. >>Sam bushman >> >> >>If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >>sender only. 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