the issue is a good one, and another is a default synthesizer so, if
one doesn't work, the default would start. Many times someone
accidently picks a synthesizer which does not work at all, or is not
connected, or is connected to a different com port and boom!
Getting the "default" synthesizer to run by holding down a key while
the computer boots is problematic at best, because when, do you hold
it down and, then, often it is not caught because of other actions
going on to load software which might require keyboard handles or, at
least, might respond if one is being held. Again, I've seen this
often, and my only work around was to unload WE, and load it with a
known command line, for a given synthesizer. Isn't it possible to
write a little code which would, if a synthesizer was not present or
unexpected feedback from a com port was seen like the response from a
modem and then load a dec_talk access32, the one shipped with WE and
the most reliable to date?
Curtis Delzer.
HS
At 12:31 PM 9/12/2008, K. Matthew wrote:
One issue I called GW about, I highly doubt will ever get implemented, is a
fail safe system, of checking if another screen reader is present before
fireing up it self. As I've been able to lock up several system from
accidently having two screen readers popping up during log on into windows.
SA has this feature. Why can't Window eyes?
Matt
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael D. Lawler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 12:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: WE 7 Beta 3 issues and priorities
Bob, we do plan on implementing the ability to use tone in the new
Eloquence driver just like it is done in SAPI. If this doesn't make
7.0 it is a synthesizer driver change so we will be able to make it
available when it is done. Now to address your frustrations. Feel
free to call us as tone doesn't always come through in email, but
since you put this on the list I'll address it on the list.
1. We have only had your request and maybe one or two more for the
Eloquence change. We are going to do it, but it wasn't as high of a
priority as other issues as we have to do the most requested items first.
2. For the IE Read-To-End thing you do have work arounds. Turn it
to read nothing and manually press control-shift-r is the most
reliable approach. I have talked to you several times and generally
see you as a rational minded person. Do you honestly feel that we
should spend time on code that is going to be completely rewritten
for 7.0 to address this? Keep in mind it didn't completely work in
6.1 and it would take a lot of time to try to get it working as well
as it did in 6.1 without introducing regressions. Note that the
problem has nothing to do with scripting. It has to do with changes
we did to read-to-end to make it more reliable. Since there is a
work around I just don't see this as practical. Your assertion that
we are just like FS and that WE isn't rock solid just isn't fair. I
work here and don't get every bug/feature that I'm personally
interested in addressed as quickly as I would like, but I don't just
find a new job because GW isn't doing exactly what I want. I just
don't feel that your accusation is fair as we will address the issues
in the most time effective manner and ultimately it will be far
better than it was in 6.1. We all have to work together on issues
and I feel that my work around is acceptable until we can come up
with a better more full proof solution.
At 09:11 PM 9/11/2008, you wrote:
>Sam, I also agree that the loss of speech issue should be resolved before a
>full release comes out. There are two more things that I can think of that
>should also be fixed
>
>First, the read to end problem was broken with WE 7 betas and apparently GW
>Micro is not going to fix this problem before version seven comes out. I
>thought that GW Micro was dedicated to releasing a rock solid product, but
I
>guess they are just spouting words, like FS.
>
>Another problem that needs to be fixed is that with the new eloquence, the
>voice tone can not be changed. That is very important to many users.
>
>I hope that GW Micro reconsiders releasing a broken product, cause Rock
>Solid sure doesn't apply to version 7 beta 3!
>
>Bob Tinney, K8LR, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Skype, bobtinn
>Original Message -----
>From: Sam bushman
>To: [email protected]
>Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 8:31 PM
>Subject: WE 7 Beta 3 issues and priorities
>
>
>Hi all,
>
>Is it possible to get a beta 3 priorities list together?
>I like it when we find bugs report them they are duplicated and fixed for
>the next version.
>
>But, we need to start to focus on the most important issues / a priority
>list if you will.
>In other words ... many of us are reporting the same things over and over.
>I agree they are problems but, GW has basically said they aren't working on
>msaa stuff.
>So, email, web browsers pdf files (any thing that uses msaa is not the
>focus).
>It doesn't matter if we agree that is the proper order ... that is what is
>set for fix / release.
>
>I personally would have rerote the msaa / browse mode stuff way before I
>would have added power point / itunes and scripting.
>But, GW has the list of what they think best and we need to trust them and
>be part of the solution for the next release ... isn't that what we agree
to
>when we use / run the beta.
>
>Now please don't email the list debating with the above and the pros and
>cons of this are.
>I am not trying to speak for GW and am just repeating what I personally
>think they said and ment.
>
>Personally the loss of speech is the biggest issue for me.
>I lost speach yesterday ... couldn't get it back for the life of me.
>I had a sighted daughter say that we was running and she clicked around and
>the computer was working perfectly.
>She didn't know why the speach was not happening but, I had her click on
the
>system tray icon for WE and exit the program.
>It exited cleanly and I just pressed ctrl-alt-w and we came back to life.
>No errors of any kind and when I tried to send an error report WE said
there
>were no errors to report.
>The sad part about this is I was not able to get GW any info to help
resolve
>this (huge!) loss of speach issue.
>Since we would like WE to be rock solid and would love to have speech as
>reliable as the screen output ... I am hoping all of us can come up with a
>way to duplicate and help GW resolve this main issue.
>
>Any ideas on this?
>
>If GW could give us a list of things we should try and do in order when we
>loose speech we may get them more info that would be helpful.
>Currently I know that the story I just told about loss of speech above
>doesn't help them at all.
>But, If I know exactly what they are looking for and what they want me to
do
>in order and reported solid step by step info ... they could get to the
>bottom of this.
>
>Any ideas are welcome.
>Any one else think the loss of speech issue is bar none the biggest issue
>for us?
>
>Thanks for listening.
>Sam bushman
>
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