Hi Raul,

Yes, I am trying to figure out what will meet my needs, that's why I'm
asking questions.

No, I haven't had a chance to use one; yes, I have read reviews which
mention their limited processing capabilities.  I don't constantly scan
for reviews, so I figured you owners would have later information than a
reviewer who had an early model maybe a year ago.

I'd really like to buy something which had as much processing power as
the best laptop, but which could clip to my belt.  I really thought the
SmallTalk Ultra (the Oqo) was it, until I spoke with your sales staff.
I really admire someone who can tell a customer, this may not be what
you're looking for.

In case anyone here had a different opinion about the SmallTalk Ultra
(the Oqo) though, I thought I'd ask.

It appears that nothing yet exists which equals the processing
capabilities of a laptop, in a very small package.

thanks.

Chip






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Chip Orange
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Florida Public Service Commission

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raul A. Gallegos [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 1:47 PM
> To: GW Info Discussion List
> Subject: Re: W.E. and Netbook PC's
> 
> Chip. What it comes down to is what will meet your needs. 
> Have you read 
> any of the reviews? Have you actually used one for a while to 
> really see?
> 
> To answer your other message about it working fine, it works 
> fine for my 
> needs. I am not expecting a powerhorse to calculate trillions of 
> computations in one second. I'm not expecting to play intensive 
> graphical games. If you are looking at something for web 
> surfing, light 
> game playing, reading and writing email, and working with 
> Office, then 
> these will work fine.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Chip Orange wrote the following on 1/27/2009 1:03 PM:
> > Raul,
> > 
> > It helps some, but I thought they were say half the price 
> of a laptop?
> > If that's the case, the one article I had read said they 
> achieved this
> > price cut by giving you components that were slower, hotter, and a
> > screen that was smaller, dimmer, and lower resolution.
> > 
> > They implied, in the review article that did some testing, 
> that slowness
> > (of everything; bus speed, hard drive, and processor/memory, and a
> > processor without L2 cache), made for an experience where 
> say, loading
> > MS Word was grindingly slow, but use of the web, where the 
> server at the
> > other end, and the speed of your internet connection were your
> > bottlenecks, would seem only slightly slower.
> > 
> > So, I'm looking for what even defines a "netbook", since the article
> > said it was a slower, but cheaper, notebook computer.
> > 
> > BTW, I talked to someone on the sales staff of GW, and he 
> said the Oqo,
> > what you might call a netbook, although an expensive one, 
> was still too
> > slow to run window eyes with synthetic speech, and a 
> processor intensive
> > application like speech recognition.  In his opinion, you 
> needed a full
> > high end laptop to run it all, and that's been my 
> experience with a high
> > end Dell laptop with a 2.2 ghz processor, loads of RAM and L2 cache,
> > that it bearly keeps up with the demand placed on it by 
> window eyes and
> > synthetic speech (and windows).  I've seen times when response time
> > isn't what you would call acceptible, and when I've removed 
> window eyes
> > and synthetic speech and had a sighted person try the same 
> things, it's
> > been ok.  This is why I respected his analysis that a 
> screen reader and
> > synthetic speech can place quite a load on a system themselves.
> > 
> > thanks.
> > 
> > Chip
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Chip Orange
> > Database Administrator
> > Florida Public Service Commission
> > 
> > [email protected]
> > (850) 413-6314
> > 
> >  (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
> > necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
> >  
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Raul A. Gallegos [mailto:[email protected]] 
> >> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:31 PM
> >> To: GW Info Discussion List
> >> Subject: Re: W.E. and Netbook PC's
> >>
> >> Chip. This is not my experience at all, and I have reviewed 4 
> >> different 
> >> netbooks. All in all, they all for the most part have;
> >>
> >> * Atom 1.6 ghz processor
> >> * 1 gb of ram
> >> * 120 or 160 gb of hard drive space
> >> * 3 or 6 cell battery
> >> * built-in wireless
> >> * onboard lan
> >> * onboard camera
> >> * Windows xp-home
> >>
> >> Some have the added bluetooth support, a modem, and/or a few other 
> >> extras. In any case, since the hardware is about the same, 
> >> what it comes 
> >> down to is how you feel about its keyboard, its management of the 
> >> battery, its shape, size, and feel. While opening Word, Excel, or 
> >> Powerpoint, they work fine. While using Internet Explorer and/or 
> >> Firefox, they work fine. Not as fast and screeming as a 
> >> desktop pc with 
> >> far more power, but not as bad as one might think.
> >>
> >> Hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Chip Orange wrote the following on 1/26/2009 2:56 PM:
> >>> Hi Steve,
> >>>
> >>> If you're doing it because of the cost, then you may want 
> >> to know that
> >>> system access is offering a "netbook" version of their 
> >> screen reader for
> >>> $150.  I don't know what's cut out to restrict it to netbooks.
> >>>
> >>> Well, my impression of these devices is that their 
> >> processing capability
> >>> is very limited and slow; if you're using it for synthetic 
> >> speech, and
> >>> running a screen reader, and trying to do something like 
> >> run internet
> >>> explorer or ms word, I'd guess you'd better have some 
> real patience.
> >>> I'm not an owner of one, but they have to get the cost down 
> >> somehow, and
> >>> I thought processor speed was one of the ways.
> >>>
> >>> My preference, if money is not the only issue, would be 
> to find the
> >>> screen size and resolution that's the cheapest for a given 
> >> line of high
> >>> performing laptops.  That's usually been the 14 inch ones 
> >> lately, but it
> >>> could be the 12 inch ones by now.
> >>>
> >>> Then you shouldn't have any worries in adding a 
> full-fledged screen
> >>> reader like window eyes, with synthetic speech.
> >>>
> >>> Chip
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Chip Orange
> >>> Database Administrator
> >>> Florida Public Service Commission
> >>>
> >>> [email protected]
> >>> (850) 413-6314
> >>>
> >>>  (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
> >>> necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service 
> Commission.)
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Steve "The Jazz Man" Bauer [mailto:[email protected]] 
> >>>> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 1:56 PM
> >>>> To: gw-info list
> >>>> Subject: W.E. and Netbook PC's 
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm looking at possibly purchasing one of these new 
> small Netbook 
> >>>> computers.
> >>>>
> >>>> Samsung MC10 appears to be top on my list at this point.
> >>>>
> >>>> Does W.E. run successfully on these small units?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks.
> >>>>
> >>>> Steve
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