Hi Cindy,

Yes, it does thanks (as do all the replies, so thanks to all who wrote).

I'm sure that things are continually improving, and that's why people
here aren't finding the problems reported by some reviewers.  It's also
tough to actually quantify their remarks such as (this isn't a powerful
laptop, but it's not meant to be", or some such.  It's hard to know if
they really mean the keyboard and screen, or the system performance.

None of them that I've read a review of have been running vista; if they
had been, I might have been given a user experience score (or whatever
it's called; it's a number that represents the over-all responsiveness
of a system under vista, and is supposed to help you compare systems).

I had wanted to buy something I could wear on my belt, with a headset,
which took speech commands and gave speech output, but left hands free.
The idea was maybe you could run a gps navigation or internet
connectivity application while you were mobile.

thanks again,

Chip




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Chip Orange
Database Administrator
Florida Public Service Commission

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: slery [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 12:57 AM
> To: Chip Orange; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: W.E. and Netbook PC's
> 
> Chip,
> 
> I think your main problem will come down to using WE and 
> voice recognition
> at the same. They probably would be okay for one or the other 
> but think it
> might be stretching it still. Perhaps next year might be a 
> better time shop
> for one since they are increasing in numbers and the models 
> are improving.
> 
> You also need to really look at the articles you are ready 
> and double check
> the dates that they were published and the models they refer 
> to. I was sort
> of shopping around in September for one and discovered a lot 
> of articles
> that mentioned these problems and then found articles that 
> specifically
> indicated a next generation version that had really improved 
> on certain
> features.
> 
> I hope that helps.
> 
> Cindy
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chip Orange [mailto:[email protected]] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 2:09 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: W.E. and Netbook PC's
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Raul,
> > 
> > Yes, I am trying to figure out what will meet my needs, 
> > that's why I'm asking questions.
> > 
> > No, I haven't had a chance to use one; yes, I have read 
> > reviews which mention their limited processing capabilities.  
> > I don't constantly scan for reviews, so I figured you owners 
> > would have later information than a reviewer who had an early 
> > model maybe a year ago.
> > 
> > I'd really like to buy something which had as much processing 
> > power as the best laptop, but which could clip to my belt.  I 
> > really thought the SmallTalk Ultra (the Oqo) was it, until I 
> > spoke with your sales staff. I really admire someone who can 
> > tell a customer, this may not be what you're looking for.
> > 
> > In case anyone here had a different opinion about the 
> > SmallTalk Ultra (the Oqo) though, I thought I'd ask.
> > 
> > It appears that nothing yet exists which equals the 
> > processing capabilities of a laptop, in a very small package.
> > 
> > thanks.
> > 
> > Chip
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Chip Orange
> > Database Administrator
> > Florida Public Service Commission
> > 
> > [email protected]
> > (850) 413-6314
> > 
> >  (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and 
> > do not necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public 
> > Service Commission.)
> >  
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Raul A. Gallegos [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 1:47 PM
> > > To: GW Info Discussion List
> > > Subject: Re: W.E. and Netbook PC's
> > > 
> > > Chip. What it comes down to is what will meet your needs.
> > > Have you read 
> > > any of the reviews? Have you actually used one for a while to 
> > > really see?
> > > 
> > > To answer your other message about it working fine, it works
> > > fine for my 
> > > needs. I am not expecting a powerhorse to calculate trillions of 
> > > computations in one second. I'm not expecting to play intensive 
> > > graphical games. If you are looking at something for web 
> > > surfing, light 
> > > game playing, reading and writing email, and working with 
> > > Office, then 
> > > these will work fine.
> > > 
> > > Hope this helps.
> > > 
> > > Chip Orange wrote the following on 1/27/2009 1:03 PM:
> > > > Raul,
> > > > 
> > > > It helps some, but I thought they were say half the price
> > > of a laptop?
> > > > If that's the case, the one article I had read said they
> > > achieved this
> > > > price cut by giving you components that were slower, 
> > hotter, and a 
> > > > screen that was smaller, dimmer, and lower resolution.
> > > > 
> > > > They implied, in the review article that did some testing,
> > > that slowness
> > > > (of everything; bus speed, hard drive, and 
> > processor/memory, and a 
> > > > processor without L2 cache), made for an experience where
> > > say, loading
> > > > MS Word was grindingly slow, but use of the web, where the
> > > server at the
> > > > other end, and the speed of your internet connection were your 
> > > > bottlenecks, would seem only slightly slower.
> > > > 
> > > > So, I'm looking for what even defines a "netbook", since 
> > the article 
> > > > said it was a slower, but cheaper, notebook computer.
> > > > 
> > > > BTW, I talked to someone on the sales staff of GW, and he
> > > said the Oqo,
> > > > what you might call a netbook, although an expensive one,
> > > was still too
> > > > slow to run window eyes with synthetic speech, and a
> > > processor intensive
> > > > application like speech recognition.  In his opinion, you
> > > needed a full
> > > > high end laptop to run it all, and that's been my
> > > experience with a high
> > > > end Dell laptop with a 2.2 ghz processor, loads of RAM 
> > and L2 cache, 
> > > > that it bearly keeps up with the demand placed on it by
> > > window eyes and
> > > > synthetic speech (and windows).  I've seen times when 
> > response time 
> > > > isn't what you would call acceptible, and when I've removed
> > > window eyes
> > > > and synthetic speech and had a sighted person try the same
> > > things, it's
> > > > been ok.  This is why I respected his analysis that a
> > > screen reader and
> > > > synthetic speech can place quite a load on a system themselves.
> > > > 
> > > > thanks.
> > > > 
> > > > Chip
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > > 
> > > > Chip Orange
> > > > Database Administrator
> > > > Florida Public Service Commission
> > > > 
> > > > [email protected]
> > > > (850) 413-6314
> > > > 
> > > >  (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author 
> > and do not 
> > > > necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service 
> > Commission.)
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Raul A. Gallegos [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > >> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:31 PM
> > > >> To: GW Info Discussion List
> > > >> Subject: Re: W.E. and Netbook PC's
> > > >>
> > > >> Chip. This is not my experience at all, and I have reviewed 4
> > > >> different 
> > > >> netbooks. All in all, they all for the most part have;
> > > >>
> > > >> * Atom 1.6 ghz processor
> > > >> * 1 gb of ram
> > > >> * 120 or 160 gb of hard drive space
> > > >> * 3 or 6 cell battery
> > > >> * built-in wireless
> > > >> * onboard lan
> > > >> * onboard camera
> > > >> * Windows xp-home
> > > >>
> > > >> Some have the added bluetooth support, a modem, and/or a 
> > few other
> > > >> extras. In any case, since the hardware is about the same, 
> > > >> what it comes 
> > > >> down to is how you feel about its keyboard, its 
> > management of the 
> > > >> battery, its shape, size, and feel. While opening Word, 
> > Excel, or 
> > > >> Powerpoint, they work fine. While using Internet 
> Explorer and/or 
> > > >> Firefox, they work fine. Not as fast and screeming as a 
> > > >> desktop pc with 
> > > >> far more power, but not as bad as one might think.
> > > >>
> > > >> Hope this helps.
> > > >>
> > > >> Chip Orange wrote the following on 1/26/2009 2:56 PM:
> > > >>> Hi Steve,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> If you're doing it because of the cost, then you may want
> > > >> to know that
> > > >>> system access is offering a "netbook" version of their
> > > >> screen reader for
> > > >>> $150.  I don't know what's cut out to restrict it to netbooks.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Well, my impression of these devices is that their
> > > >> processing capability
> > > >>> is very limited and slow; if you're using it for synthetic
> > > >> speech, and
> > > >>> running a screen reader, and trying to do something like
> > > >> run internet
> > > >>> explorer or ms word, I'd guess you'd better have some
> > > real patience.
> > > >>> I'm not an owner of one, but they have to get the cost down
> > > >> somehow, and
> > > >>> I thought processor speed was one of the ways.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> My preference, if money is not the only issue, would be
> > > to find the
> > > >>> screen size and resolution that's the cheapest for a given
> > > >> line of high
> > > >>> performing laptops.  That's usually been the 14 inch ones
> > > >> lately, but it
> > > >>> could be the 12 inch ones by now.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Then you shouldn't have any worries in adding a
> > > full-fledged screen
> > > >>> reader like window eyes, with synthetic speech.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Chip
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ------------------------------
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Chip Orange
> > > >>> Database Administrator
> > > >>> Florida Public Service Commission
> > > >>>
> > > >>> [email protected]
> > > >>> (850) 413-6314
> > > >>>
> > > >>>  (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author 
> > and do not 
> > > >>> necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service
> > > Commission.)
> > > >>>  
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>>> From: Steve "The Jazz Man" Bauer [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > >>>> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 1:56 PM
> > > >>>> To: gw-info list
> > > >>>> Subject: W.E. and Netbook PC's 
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I'm looking at possibly purchasing one of these new
> > > small Netbook
> > > >>>> computers.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Samsung MC10 appears to be top on my list at this point.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Does W.E. run successfully on these small units?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Thanks.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Steve
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