Chip, we have only had one other issue with this spam prevention technology so far and that person's IT people were easily able to make an exception for our lists. There is no risk to your organization in doing this as it just allows our system to correctly identify you so if anything the risk is to us. Whether you agree with this or not isn't currently important as again this is a work around that they could implement now to solve the issue.


At 02:04 PM 11/25/2009, you wrote:
Hi Steve,

yes, there are lists for moderators of lists, which you can subscribe to, in
order to voice your issues and be made aware of upcoming changes.

in my case, the list providers also keep their list software up to date as
far as changes in the accepted standard for format of email messages.

I now am unable to use any of the GW mailing lists from my corporate email
server, because it has adopted a change in the standard, which GW has not
updated to, and so the systems are now incompatible.  this kind of thing
will continue to plague GW as the industry strives to handle the spam
problem; and yet, if they do like every other provider of specialized
equipment and software for the blind and move to a commercial/free list
provider, they can offload these maintenance issues.

finally, it provides the users of the list with an interface they are likely
very used to.  it's likely they will know how to unsubscribe or set vacation
or digest mode.  the GW list software is unique in my experience; it's not
got an interface for the user like anything else I'm used to using.

so, while I think your point is worth consideration, I think there are many
other points which together, lead towards use of a free, standard, service
provided by someone else.

Chip


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 1:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: mailing list

Chip and Tina,

I don't know what all of GW Micro's concerns might be, but from my
experience in other areas, one concern is whether list software will change
without notice.  If one just manages one list, one can move to a different
list provider.  If a company manages several lists and they have a
commitment to users and have it pre-printed in literature they distribute,
they are left in a real bind if a list provider suddenly institutes
Captcha's or rolls out an inaccessible web site or even one that doesn't
work with their product very well.  Also, while it can be resolved, I've
also seen Freelist addresses flagged as spam although I've seen it less
often with Google Groups.  I guess my question is whether as moderators, do
you get notice of changes that might be coming to the software that your
lists depend on?  In the past, I've seen accessibility issues arise without
any notice at all on other common list providers, and can understand why a
company might want to control the server and software they use, but maybe
moderators have more input with Freelists and GoogleGroups.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:30:05 -0000, tina daveie wrote:

>Hi i run 2 google  groups mailing lists and its is so easy for the
>owner and the member i would not go back to any think then googlegroups
>so i  am behind you 100%


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