Michael, they said it would be against our security policy to implement an exception for me, so no, you're wrong when you say it can be worked around.
others are likely to adopt the new email format, so future problems with the list and this format are only a matter of time. and if it isn't spam prevention, then it could be any other format change that the industry decides it needs. Chip -----Original Message----- From: Michael D. Lawler [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 4:09 PM To: gw-info Subject: RE: mailing list Chip, we have only had one other issue with this spam prevention technology so far and that person's IT people were easily able to make an exception for our lists. There is no risk to your organization in doing this as it just allows our system to correctly identify you so if anything the risk is to us. Whether you agree with this or not isn't currently important as again this is a work around that they could implement now to solve the issue. At 02:04 PM 11/25/2009, you wrote: >Hi Steve, > >yes, there are lists for moderators of lists, which you can subscribe >to, in order to voice your issues and be made aware of upcoming changes. > >in my case, the list providers also keep their list software up to date >as far as changes in the accepted standard for format of email messages. > >I now am unable to use any of the GW mailing lists from my corporate >email server, because it has adopted a change in the standard, which GW >has not updated to, and so the systems are now incompatible. this kind >of thing will continue to plague GW as the industry strives to handle >the spam problem; and yet, if they do like every other provider of >specialized equipment and software for the blind and move to a >commercial/free list provider, they can offload these maintenance issues. > >finally, it provides the users of the list with an interface they are >likely very used to. it's likely they will know how to unsubscribe or >set vacation or digest mode. the GW list software is unique in my >experience; it's not got an interface for the user like anything else I'm used to using. > >so, while I think your point is worth consideration, I think there are >many other points which together, lead towards use of a free, standard, >service provided by someone else. > >Chip > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 1:27 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: mailing list > >Chip and Tina, > >I don't know what all of GW Micro's concerns might be, but from my >experience in other areas, one concern is whether list software will >change without notice. If one just manages one list, one can move to a >different list provider. If a company manages several lists and they >have a commitment to users and have it pre-printed in literature they >distribute, they are left in a real bind if a list provider suddenly >institutes Captcha's or rolls out an inaccessible web site or even one >that doesn't work with their product very well. Also, while it can be >resolved, I've also seen Freelist addresses flagged as spam although >I've seen it less often with Google Groups. I guess my question is >whether as moderators, do you get notice of changes that might be >coming to the software that your lists depend on? In the past, I've >seen accessibility issues arise without any notice at all on other >common list providers, and can understand why a company might want to >control the server and software they use, but maybe moderators have more input with Freelists and GoogleGroups. > >Best regards, > >Steve Jacobson > >On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:30:05 -0000, tina daveie wrote: > > >Hi i run 2 google groups mailing lists and its is so easy for the > >owner and the member i would not go back to any think then > >googlegroups so i am behind you 100% > > > >If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original > >sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your > >message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your > >message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. > > >All GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo, > >and can >be searched through and sorted >using the search > >form at the bottom of the page. > > >If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > >[email protected] and include leave gw-info in the body of the > >message. > > > > > > > > >If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your >message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your >message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. > >All GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo, and >can be searched through and sorted using the search form at the bottom >of the page. > >If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, send a message to >[email protected] and include leave gw-info in the body of the >message. > >If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your >message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your >message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. > >All GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo, and >can be searched through and sorted using the search form at the bottom >of the page. > >If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, send a message to >[email protected] and include leave gw-info in the body of the >message. -- Michael D. Lawler Voice 260-489-3671 Fax 260-489-2608 Internet mailto:[email protected] web http://www.gwmicro.com ftp ftp://ftp.gwmicro.com GW Micro, Inc., Development Liaison and Technical Support Supervisor If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. All GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo, and can be searched through and sorted using the search form at the bottom of the page. If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, send a message to [email protected] and include leave gw-info in the body of the message. If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. All GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo, and can be searched through and sorted using the search form at the bottom of the page. If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, send a message to [email protected] and include leave gw-info in the body of the message.
