Just have to kick in here. My HP laptop has several HP software on it. I find it is ok accessible. For instance, the update software is running in a web page, when you start it manually. And even the backup and restore is possible to operate with WE. Ican't, of course, speak for the whole line of HP products, but at least the laptop I am using has been wonderful. I had another HP laptop a few years ago, and was ok with that one. That was one of the reasons, why I did go for this one a little more than a year ago.

And to you Sarah, who claimed that the HP update is not needed, since we have the Microsoft update. I disagree, and disagree again. Microsoft will update Windows, and Windows related software, and a few drivers. But when it comes to hardware specific drivers, like your Graphic driver, your sound card driver, and even some software for your CD drive - Microsoft does not touch these. Of course, you could do a manual search on the net, for your drivers. But that is a rather tidious job. Believe me, I know it, as my desktop (a non-branded model), does not have an update software. Just try to go to the Realtec homepage, and search for a driver update for your sound card, or network card. Even though you know your model name, you will need your serial number, and a couple more numbers, so as to get the right driver, for your particular card. Boy! is it easier with the update from HP, that simply checks your system, locate the new driver, and ltes you donwload and install it.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Chip Orange" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 3:11 AM
Subject: RE: A bit more on these laptops


I'm in I.T., and I've been in I.T. for almost 30 years, and for some odd
reason, HP is known for constantly bad software.

we've always bought HP printers at work, and they're always really good
hardware, and the drivers and other utilities are always bad; just always!

Chip


-----Original Message-----
From: Sara [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 8:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: A bit more on these laptops

Keep in mind that a lot of this extra updating software loads at startup and isn't very accessible. The hp software kept crashing and I had to remove it
from startup.
I'm not saying they're all bad, just that Microsoft update can often do the
same work and it's really accessible.
Sara
----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <[email protected]>
To: "Chip Orange" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: A bit more on these laptops


HP has the same kind of updating service, in a few keystrokes you will
be notified if there is any updates to your hard ware, or software
drivers.

Another thing to take into consideration if you are going to travel
alot, is the waranty. Some brands only have a local warranty, while
others have regional or even worldwide services.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Chip Orange" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 1:52 AM
Subject: RE: A bit more on these laptops


you're quite right Tiler.

When I ordered from Dell, and when I ordered a Thinkpad from IBM,
both times I had knowledgible people helping me.  I'm much more
inclined to say buy from a big name such as they are, because the
support for fixed drivers, and related software, as well as sales, is
better.

ibm gave you a piece of software they wrote, which automatically
checked all your versions of drivers and software written by ibm for
anything out of date, and if it found anything, it downloaded it and
installed it.  don't buy from some discount no-name brand, you won't
get this kind of support.

Chip



-----Original Message-----
From: Tyler Juranek [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: A bit more on these laptops

Hello,
I don't remember what the guys name was on here that posted about
laptops, but I'd like to warn you about some things.
I was looking at computers, oh I think it was a month ago, and they
didn't know squat.
"Sir, I use a  screen reader, and I need 32 bit windows 7. Which one
of these is 32 bit?"
"Well, I don't know."
Well that's alot of help.
So, see I'm just warning you folks to make sure you get someone to
help you, who knows what the heck their talking about.
Tyler



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