Who is trying to move to something worse?
I thought this discussion was about trying to find a good move forward option.
As we go to windows 7 and beyond ... we need to find a new email option.
Sam

----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Barry" <[email protected]>
To: "erik burggraaf" <[email protected]>
Cc: "john schwery" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: e mail clients


Well, if you're spending 2k on a computer than you are paying way too much.
yes, XP is the past, and Vista should be
forgotten entirely but in those cases we have 7 which is an improvement.
With Eudora I do not see a better product around.
Until I do I shall stick with it.
Moving to something newer which is inferior does not strike me as a good idea.
Kevin

At 08:47 AM 1/25/2010, erik burggraaf wrote:
True, but I don't recomend people buy windows xp on their new machines either for just that reason. People complain about driver issues in vista and rightly so, but windows xp sp3 broke a whole lot more than int fixed and those issues are never going to be fixed in all likelyhood.

64 bit support in windows xp was a morbid joke, and we don't have access to it anyway, which means we're building $2000 computers according to specs that were current in 2008 so we can justify putting windows xp on them.

I'm not saying the new stuff is in all ways better. I'm just saying at what point do you weigh the long term cost vs benefit and say, "it's time to move on from this thing?" Unfortunately that time has come for some very excellent products that served us extremely well.

best,

erik burggraaf
A+ certified technician and user support consultant.
Phone: 888-255-5194
Email: [email protected]

On 2010-01-25, at 8:39 AM, Kevin Barry wrote:

> I disagree it is badly out of date.
> The world has not changed enough to make that statement true.
> As for being not supported; XP is no longer
supported but lots of people still use it and continue to do so.
> I'd be happy to switch to a new e-mail
program if one better, or just equal, to Eudora was around.
> One is not.
> As Eudora works fine on 64-bit Windows 7 I
expect to keep using it for some time to come.
> Kevin
>
> At 08:21 AM 1/25/2010, erik burggraaf wrote:
>> The opperative word is "Continue".  If you
were already using it while it was current I can totally understand why you would want to continue using it. I might be doing the same thing myself if I hadn't switched to apple. At some point you may have to upgrade. I suspect you will be forced into it one of these sad days. But for new users it is not responsible to start them on something badly out of date and totally unsupported.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> erik burggraaf
>> A+ certified technician and user support consultant.
>> Phone: 888-255-5194
>> Email: [email protected]
>>
>> On 2010-01-25, at 7:47 AM, john schwery wrote:
>>
>> > That's true, but it still works.  That is why I continue to use it.
>> >
>> > earlier, Sam bushman wrote:
>> >> Eudora is not being developed any more.
>> >> Thanks
>> >> Sam
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johnny Angel!" <[email protected]>
>> >> To: <[email protected]>
>> >> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 10:35 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: e mail clients
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Eudora 7.1x from http://www.eudora.com works just fine.
>> >>>
>> >>> At 12:02 PM 1/24/2010, you wrote:
>> >>>>       Hi all,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I hear the messages over and over about
email clients that every one is having trouble with.
>> >>>> Any ideas of what email clients work best with we7.11 latest >> >>>> version?
>> >>>> Maybe the GW staff can suggest a list
of  clients that they would recommend in order of accissability?
>> >>>> Thanks
>> >>>> Sam
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "net bat" <[email protected]>
>> >>>> To: "GW INFO" <[email protected]>
>> >>>> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 9:55 AM
>> >>>> Subject: Re: e mail clients
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> this is not vista's windows mail this
is windows live mail and is not accessable to w e right now.
>> >>>>> if more people would email
>> >>>>> Michael D Lawler <[email protected]>
>> >>>>> maybe they would re consider supporting live mail
>> >>>>> or talk to microsoft to upgrade the
current version so it would be accessable with w e and jaws.
>> >>>>> it does work with jaws but not without there scripts.
>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From:
"Ginger Roe" <[email protected]>
>> >>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 8:45 AM
>> >>>>> Subject: FW: e mail clients
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Hi, you can here:
>> >>>>>> http://download.live.com/
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>>> From: Russ Kiehne [mailto:[email protected]]
>> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 10:10 AM
>> >>>>>> To: [email protected]
>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: e mail clients
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I'm wondering why Microsoft doesn't make windows mail available >> >>>>>> for
>> >>>>>> download?
>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From:
"Jeff Bishop" <[email protected]>
>> >>>>>> To: "Bob Tinney"
<[email protected]>; "GW Micro" <[email protected]>
>> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 7:55 AM
>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: e mail clients
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I am sorry, the pure lack of good
keyboard navigation in that application
>> >>>>>>> doesn't warrant such support.  If
Microsoft gets there act together and
>> >>>>>>> provides stable keyboard inneraction
to the application then I would agree.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> The folder list for one is a pain in the neck.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Jeff
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From:
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>> >>>>>>> To: "GW Micro" <[email protected]>
>> >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 8:51 AM
>> >>>>>>> Subject: e mail clients
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I would like to see Window-Eyes
support Windows Live Mail as it is the
>> >>>>>>>> usual
>> >>>>>>>> email program that most people would download for Windows 7!
>> >>>>>>>>
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