hi jeff was able to use control y to move from folder to folder the information is available threw msaa and got it talking no problem. in fact my problem is now it talks to much lol. got to now work on cutting down the speech.
hth

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From: "Brandon Misch" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 7:49 AM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: e mail clients

i've been able to go through those dialogs without any issues in fact, i did that last night to go from my inbox to the deleted items folder and it worked great. this was with the latest jaws 11 build but also was able to do it successfully with older jaws releases hth.

On Jan 25, 2010, at 9:47 AM, Jeff Bishop wrote:

Can someone with JAWS and Windows Live Mail tell me if they can easily navigate the control+y folder list and the move message dialog to a folder? I tried it with an older version of JAWS 11 and the experience was not very good, I don't know if it changed. Again, this is something due to the way Microsoft is handling Windows Live Mail and not a screen reader issue.

If it does work then maybe something can be done here in WE scripting but I don't even know if the data for this area is exposed in anyway. GW Micro could chime in here.

----- Original Message ----- From: "erik burggraaf" <[email protected]>
To: "Kevin Barry" <[email protected]>
Cc: "john schwery" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 7:42 AM
Subject: Re: e mail clients


You wrote:
"Moving to something newer which is inferior does not strike me as a good idea."

Again, I assert,
Starting out fresh with something that is antiquated is not a better idea.

best,

erik burggraaf
A+ certified technician and user support consultant.
Phone: 888-255-5194
Email: [email protected]

On 2010-01-25, at 9:17 AM, Kevin Barry wrote:

Well, if you're spending 2k on a computer than you are paying way too much. yes, XP is the past, and Vista should be forgotten entirely but in those cases we have 7 which is an improvement.
With Eudora I do not see a better product around.
Until I do I shall stick with it.
Moving to something newer which is inferior does not strike me as a good idea.
Kevin

At 08:47 AM 1/25/2010, erik burggraaf wrote:
True, but I don't recomend people buy windows xp on their new machines either for just that reason. People complain about driver issues in vista and rightly so, but windows xp sp3 broke a whole lot more than int fixed and those issues are never going to be fixed in all likelyhood.

64 bit support in windows xp was a morbid joke, and we don't have access to it anyway, which means we're building $2000 computers according to specs that were current in 2008 so we can justify putting windows xp on them.

I'm not saying the new stuff is in all ways better. I'm just saying at what point do you weigh the long term cost vs benefit and say, "it's time to move on from this thing?" Unfortunately that time has come for some very excellent products that served us extremely well.

best,

erik burggraaf
A+ certified technician and user support consultant.
Phone: 888-255-5194
Email: [email protected]

On 2010-01-25, at 8:39 AM, Kevin Barry wrote:

> I disagree it is badly out of date.
> The world has not changed enough to make that statement true.
> As for being not supported; XP is no longer supported but lots of > > people still use it and continue to do so. > I'd be happy to switch to a new e-mail program if one better, or just > > equal, to Eudora was around.
> One is not.
> As Eudora works fine on 64-bit Windows 7 I expect to keep using it > for > some time to come.
> Kevin
>
> At 08:21 AM 1/25/2010, erik burggraaf wrote:
>> The opperative word is "Continue". If you were already using it >> while >> it was current I can totally understand why you would want >> to continue >> using it. I might be doing the same thing myself if >> I hadn't switched >> to apple. At some point you may have to >> upgrade. I suspect you will >> be forced into it one of these sad >> days. But for new users it is not >> responsible to start them on >> something badly out of date and totally >> unsupported.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> erik burggraaf
>> A+ certified technician and user support consultant.
>> Phone: 888-255-5194
>> Email: [email protected]
>>
>> On 2010-01-25, at 7:47 AM, john schwery wrote:
>>
>> > That's true, but it still works. That is why I continue to use >> > it.
>> >
>> > earlier, Sam bushman wrote:
>> >> Eudora is not being developed any more.
>> >> Thanks
>> >> Sam
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johnny Angel!" >> >> <[email protected]>
>> >> To: <[email protected]>
>> >> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 10:35 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: e mail clients
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Eudora 7.1x from http://www.eudora.com works just fine.
>> >>>
>> >>> At 12:02 PM 1/24/2010, you wrote:
>> >>>>       Hi all,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I hear the messages over and over about email clients that >> >>>> every >> >>>> one is having trouble with. >> >>>> Any ideas of what email clients work best with we7.11 latest >> >> >>>> >>>> version? >> >>>> Maybe the GW staff can suggest a list of clients that they >> >>>> would >> >>>> recommend in order of accissability?
>> >>>> Thanks
>> >>>> Sam
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "net bat" >> >>>> <[email protected]>
>> >>>> To: "GW INFO" <[email protected]>
>> >>>> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 9:55 AM
>> >>>> Subject: Re: e mail clients
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> this is not vista's windows mail this is windows live mail and >> >>>>> >> >>>>> is not accessable to w e right now.
>> >>>>> if more people would email
>> >>>>> Michael D Lawler <[email protected]>
>> >>>>> maybe they would re consider supporting live mail
>> >>>>> or talk to microsoft to upgrade the current version so it >> >>>>> would >> >>>>> be accessable with w e and jaws.
>> >>>>> it does work with jaws but not without there scripts.
>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ginger Roe" >> >>>>> >> >>>>> <[email protected]>
>> >>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 8:45 AM
>> >>>>> Subject: FW: e mail clients
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Hi, you can here:
>> >>>>>> http://download.live.com/
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>>> From: Russ Kiehne [mailto:[email protected]]
>> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 10:10 AM
>> >>>>>> To: [email protected]
>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: e mail clients
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I'm wondering why Microsoft doesn't make windows mail >> >>>>>> available >> >>>>>> for
>> >>>>>> download?
>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Bishop" >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> <[email protected]> >> >>>>>> To: "Bob Tinney" <[email protected]>; "GW Micro" >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> <[email protected]>
>> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 7:55 AM
>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: e mail clients
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I am sorry, the pure lack of good keyboard navigation in >> >>>>>>> that >> >>>>>>> application >> >>>>>>> doesn't warrant such support. If Microsoft gets there act >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> together and >> >>>>>>> provides stable keyboard inneraction to the application then >> >>>>>>> I >> >>>>>>> would agree.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> The folder list for one is a pain in the neck.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Jeff
>> >>>>>>>
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