You should watch your language period when posting to a public list.
You knew very well exactly what you were doing, that tongue in cheek
response does not become some one who holds himself out as an inteligent
individual.

Regards,
-Len

On 9/2/2010 11:27 AM, Chris Belle wrote:
> Yes, I should watch my language in front of ladies.
> 
> I guess the knee jerk reaction by people selling their wares and getting
> a bad reception hit me the wrong way.
> 
> I do defend my screen-reader, but I don't agree with everything they say
> or do.
> 
> This really didn't have anything to do with gwmicro, but this cat came
> on here saying he had some programs to do some useful stuff, and same as
> whqat happened to me,
> when I came out with my fixmute script, I got small minded treatment.
> 
> How would you like people bashing scanacan?
> 
> No I don't know this guy, he might be a farce, but people should check
> things out before judging, or talking badly about it.
> 
> the world doesn't revolve around window-eyes.
> Or ferguson enterprises.
> Or affordable studio services.
> 
> Everyone selling, or giving away their wares deserves a little respect.
> 
> 
> I know a certain dear sister, nudge, nudge, wink, wink, who was
> expressing some strong desires for certain things to be fixed in we,
> and that's how it should be.
> 
> so let's don't jump on people because they pop up and offer something.
> 
> that's just low rent.
> 
> and that typical closed minded blindy mentallity I hate.
> 
> YOu may not agree with my sentiments, but if so, we can still be loving
> and agree to disagree.
> 
> I'm for inovation, and letting people be creative, and new ideas, and
> new technology.
> 
> If this cat has something good to show us, then let the good times roll.
> 
> The fastest dog on the block gets the bone.
> 
> 
> At 12:30 PM 9/2/2010, Pat Ferguson wrote:
>> Chris,
>>
>> I think you need to clean up  your language.
>>
>> I'm not the moderator, but why are you not defending GW Micro and
>> defending this guy when you know nothing about him! You don't even
>> know why he is on this list and none of us know his real motives.
>>
>> I was surprised to see you act this way.
>>
>> Pat Ferguson
>>
>> At 04:07 AM 9/2/2010, you wrote:
>>> Shane,
>>>
>>> Never mind the small minds on here that can't comprehend that anybody
>>> but official microsoft programmers, or the in house screen-reader
>>> programmer company are the only ones who can do anything.
>>>
>>> They don't understand how programming works, you know, I'm somewhat
>>> of a developer myself,
>>> I teach, and train, and run my own studio, and when I posted a small
>>> very useful script for sale on here a few months back, I got lots of
>>> negativity.
>>>
>>> but never be discouraged, because folks approached me privately, and
>>> I got sales and happy customers out of it.
>>>
>>> There are good professional people here, but many of the sheltered
>>> blindies who just like to run their mouths, and create bad feeling,
>>> because they don't do anything productive themselves, don't have a
>>> job, career, or anything that's meaningful in their lives, so they
>>> just tear down other people's work.
>>>
>>> I don't know about the Karen chick, but I know Robert generally
>>> loves to be a ful time asshole,
>>> he hasn't stirred the pot lately,
>>> but anyway, just consider the people who've responded to you.
>>>
>>> If your the real deal, and have written some useful apps, then I
>>> congratulate you, and thanks for letting us know,
>>> and you guys who haven't even looked at his work, and don't know a
>>> hard drive from a hand job, shut the fuck up.
>>>
>>> At least someone is stepping up to the plate and trying to do
>>> something for us, never mind if they speak the king's english like
>>> you think they should.
>>>
>>> YOu guys don't deserve any better.
>>>
>>> Now if you go check his files out, and they don't work, or are full
>>> of viruses, then by all means, say something, otherwise, your just
>>> showing; your ass.
>>>
>>> Yes, I'm showing mine right now too, but you know what?
>>>
>>> I hate stupidity, and short sightedness and ignorance displayed like
>>> this.
>>>
>>> Just talking about someone because he posted some utilities, and told
>>> you about his work.
>>>
>>> And maybe some of it might work better than some things window-eyes
>>> does, what's the crime in that?
>>>
>>> You guys get a clue, and get a life, go do something useful.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At 09:52 PM 9/1/2010, shane findley wrote:
>>>> I have written an on screen keyboard that is much better than
>>>> microsofts third party on screen keyboard for Windows 7.  I released
>>>> before they did.
>>>> My article is here, and should change some of your minds about my
>>>> credability.
>>>> <http://www.codeguru.com/vb/gen/vb_system/keyboard/article.php/c16501/>http://www.codeguru.com/vb/gen/vb_system/keyboard/article.php/c16501/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also I wrote a sendkeys module, that won the codeguru award in 2008.
>>>> <http://www.codeguru.com/vb/gen/vb_system/keyboard/article.php/c14629__1/>http://www.codeguru.com/vb/gen/vb_system/keyboard/article.php/c14629__1/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And I re-wrote the UAC(User account control) to be safer, and much
>>>> less annoying to use.
>>>> <http://www.codeguru.com/vb/gen/vb_system/win32/article.php/c16565/>http://www.codeguru.com/vb/gen/vb_system/win32/article.php/c16565/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyhow, I understand the loyalty of window eyes users, its okay to
>>>> bash me until you know who I am, and what I've got.
>>>> The demo is mostly for developer collaboration, and is in the final
>>>> stages where it can be tested by others.  That's why I tried to
>>>> contact GW, but was ignored.  They are busy, and probably didn't
>>>> believe me.  I understand, they are big boys now.
>>>>
>>>> It has not been officially released for sale yet.  The setup is
>>>> incomplete without audio, but that will be different later
>>>> ofcourse.  Voiceware Kate, and Paul are not included but work great
>>>> with the software on Vista/7 too!
>>>> I wanted to get final feedback from blind users, and over the next
>>>> couple months perfect and polish the software.  I can close my eyes
>>>> too, and I have many times during testing, and developing, but I am
>>>> well aware that there are biases, which I may have overlooked.  Not
>>>> many, but I'm not oblivious either.
>>>>
>>>> Are you sighted, or totally blind?
>>>> Are you using xp, Vista or Windows 7?
>>>> Do you have .NET 2.0 or higher installed?
>>>>
>>>> The demo is best with xp right now, since I lost some details in
>>>> Vista/7 after the last filter update.  I will get those tricky
>>>> controls back.  Vista and 7 were quirky along the way, but things
>>>> have stabalized recently.  I spent most time this summer working on
>>>> the foundation, which was the most important, and I will finish the
>>>> application for Vista/7 soon(within a few weeks), so the experience
>>>> is professional and without bugs on all systems.
>>>>
>>>> You will find that almost all standard windows will have FULL
>>>> access, within quick reach.
>>>> And a customizable filter ofcourse.
>>>> For example taskbar objects, all task manager controls,  all
>>>> explorer controls, all notepad controls etc.  If you press shift
>>>> while refreshing you get additional client windows in the scrollable
>>>> list. Those were uncommon, but still an accessible point, usually a
>>>> button.
>>>> I also hybrided HotSpots into the mix, so that common points can be
>>>> included in the scrollable list.  Over a short period of time most
>>>> web windows will be mostly accessible, by
>>>> writing very general rules, and specific rules to filter uneeded, or
>>>> needed window controls and their objects.
>>>>
>>>> Quick instructions, you move the mouse into a category, left to
>>>> right.  Locked in statically, so that the mouse does not move, but
>>>> the category changes with voice feedback.
>>>> Then you scroll to move the mouse over any and all controls. 
>>>> Controls are items on a form, so scroll them, as if they were text
>>>> items!  Its genius in it's simplisity, but I can see why it's hard
>>>> to pull off, or yet never done.
>>>>
>>>> The categories are in this order:
>>>> Main Window, Control Under Mouse, and Selected Item.
>>>> The main window category can also move the mouse down to the
>>>> taskbar, or up towards the desktop.   At any time to get more
>>>> information about the control under the mouse, right click and hold
>>>> for one second, to read the description of that control.
>>>>
>>>> I will change the demo to 30 minutes, and I will do a final proof
>>>> read before uploading the 30 minute demo.  No need for rebooting
>>>> though, you may start the app again under the license terms.
>>>>
>>>> Please allow me to post the demo in the morning, when I complete
>>>> another proof read.
>>>> I use mediafire to host files, or directly though email since the
>>>> file size is digestable.
>>>> If anyone has objections to mediafire, then where can I upload the
>>>> demo that you trust?
>>>>
>>>> You should always scan files, but it's not wise to use any old
>>>> freeware for this purpose.
>>>> At least not the ones that popup on a webpage, those are viruses
>>>> usually with the mask on to help you, or promote sister companies by
>>>> filtering an app as a virus.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
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