Chris,
I think you need to clean up your language.
I'm not the moderator, but why are you not defending GW Micro and
defending this guy when you know nothing about him! You don't even
know why he is on this list and none of us know his real motives.
I was surprised to see you act this way.
Pat Ferguson
At 04:07 AM 9/2/2010, you wrote:
Shane,
Never mind the small minds on here that can't comprehend that
anybody but official microsoft programmers, or the in house
screen-reader programmer company are the only ones who can do anything.
They don't understand how programming works, you know, I'm somewhat
of a developer myself,
I teach, and train, and run my own studio, and when I posted a small
very useful script for sale on here a few months back, I got lots of
negativity.
but never be discouraged, because folks approached me privately, and
I got sales and happy customers out of it.
There are good professional people here, but many of the sheltered
blindies who just like to run their mouths, and create bad feeling,
because they don't do anything productive themselves, don't have a
job, career, or anything that's meaningful in their lives, so they
just tear down other people's work.
I don't know about the Karen chick, but I know Robert generally
loves to be a ful time asshole,
he hasn't stirred the pot lately,
but anyway, just consider the people who've responded to you.
If your the real deal, and have written some useful apps, then I
congratulate you, and thanks for letting us know,
and you guys who haven't even looked at his work, and don't know a
hard drive from a hand job, shut the fuck up.
At least someone is stepping up to the plate and trying to do
something for us, never mind if they speak the king's english like
you think they should.
YOu guys don't deserve any better.
Now if you go check his files out, and they don't work, or are full
of viruses, then by all means, say something, otherwise, your just
showing; your ass.
Yes, I'm showing mine right now too, but you know what?
I hate stupidity, and short sightedness and ignorance displayed like this.
Just talking about someone because he posted some utilities, and
told you about his work.
And maybe some of it might work better than some things window-eyes
does, what's the crime in that?
You guys get a clue, and get a life, go do something useful.
At 09:52 PM 9/1/2010, shane findley wrote:
I have written an on screen keyboard that is much better than
microsofts third party on screen keyboard for Windows 7. I
released before they did.
My article is here, and should change some of your minds about my
credability.
<http://www.codeguru.com/vb/gen/vb_system/keyboard/article.php/c16501/>http://www.codeguru.com/vb/gen/vb_system/keyboard/article.php/c16501/
Also I wrote a sendkeys module, that won the codeguru award in 2008.
<http://www.codeguru.com/vb/gen/vb_system/keyboard/article.php/c14629__1/>http://www.codeguru.com/vb/gen/vb_system/keyboard/article.php/c14629__1/
And I re-wrote the UAC(User account control) to be safer, and much
less annoying to use.
<http://www.codeguru.com/vb/gen/vb_system/win32/article.php/c16565/>http://www.codeguru.com/vb/gen/vb_system/win32/article.php/c16565/
Anyhow, I understand the loyalty of window eyes users, its okay to
bash me until you know who I am, and what I've got.
The demo is mostly for developer collaboration, and is in the final
stages where it can be tested by others. That's why I tried to
contact GW, but was ignored. They are busy, and probably didn't
believe me. I understand, they are big boys now.
It has not been officially released for sale yet. The setup is
incomplete without audio, but that will be different later
ofcourse. Voiceware Kate, and Paul are not included but work great
with the software on Vista/7 too!
I wanted to get final feedback from blind users, and over the next
couple months perfect and polish the software. I can close my eyes
too, and I have many times during testing, and developing, but I am
well aware that there are biases, which I may have overlooked. Not
many, but I'm not oblivious either.
Are you sighted, or totally blind?
Are you using xp, Vista or Windows 7?
Do you have .NET 2.0 or higher installed?
The demo is best with xp right now, since I lost some details in
Vista/7 after the last filter update. I will get those tricky
controls back. Vista and 7 were quirky along the way, but things
have stabalized recently. I spent most time this summer working on
the foundation, which was the most important, and I will finish the
application for Vista/7 soon(within a few weeks), so the experience
is professional and without bugs on all systems.
You will find that almost all standard windows will have FULL
access, within quick reach.
And a customizable filter ofcourse.
For example taskbar objects, all task manager controls, all
explorer controls, all notepad controls etc. If you press shift
while refreshing you get additional client windows in the
scrollable list. Those were uncommon, but still an accessible
point, usually a button.
I also hybrided HotSpots into the mix, so that common points can be
included in the scrollable list. Over a short period of time most
web windows will be mostly accessible, by
writing very general rules, and specific rules to filter uneeded,
or needed window controls and their objects.
Quick instructions, you move the mouse into a category, left to
right. Locked in statically, so that the mouse does not move, but
the category changes with voice feedback.
Then you scroll to move the mouse over any and all
controls. Controls are items on a form, so scroll them, as if they
were text items! Its genius in it's simplisity, but I can see why
it's hard to pull off, or yet never done.
The categories are in this order:
Main Window, Control Under Mouse, and Selected Item.
The main window category can also move the mouse down to the
taskbar, or up towards the desktop. At any time to get more
information about the control under the mouse, right click and hold
for one second, to read the description of that control.
I will change the demo to 30 minutes, and I will do a final proof
read before uploading the 30 minute demo. No need for rebooting
though, you may start the app again under the license terms.
Please allow me to post the demo in the morning, when I complete
another proof read.
I use mediafire to host files, or directly though email since the
file size is digestable.
If anyone has objections to mediafire, then where can I upload the
demo that you trust?
You should always scan files, but it's not wise to use any old
freeware for this purpose.
At least not the ones that popup on a webpage, those are viruses
usually with the mask on to help you, or promote sister companies
by filtering an app as a virus.
Thanks
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