I have a question for you guys. How does one scroll with the keyboard?
When I'm sharing the screen with a sighted person, they often ask me move it
up or down, and I have no idea how to do this with the keyboard! *smile*
Traci
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From: "Robert C" <[email protected]>
To: "Tyler Juranek" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>;
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Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: Mouse Vs Keyboard
Out of date or not, for most people its simply one more option at their
behest. If its not of use to anyone, unplug it and toss it in the trash.
Quote of the nanosecond. . .
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tyler Juranek" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: Mouse Vs Keyboard
Folks,
I agree with david here.
The mouse is one of those out-of-date products.
It does nothing but waste time.
When I ask a sighted person to do something for me, they go right for the
mouse.
You know what I do?
Knock there fingers right off the thing!
Tyler
----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, Sep 2, 2010 9:26:14
Subject: Re: Mouse Vs Keyboard
his
Funny you mentioned this. Some years ago, I was delivering a new
computer to one customer. I started to teach him how to use the
keyboard, by pressing Alt-F to go to the File menu, and then do your
stuff there, or even just press CTRL-S to save the document. The guy,
stubbornly insisted on using his poor plastic thing, the mouse. So, I
let him sit there and fool around with it for a while. But you know, he
took a few moments for every little thing he needed to do.
Finally, I made him an offer: Now, I said, let us try this out. Me being
blind, and hence prefering the keyboard commands, you being sighted
prefering the mouse. Let us do ten operations here in this very
application, you go ahead with your mouse, and I will do the same tasks
with the keyboard. Then, let's see, who is performing the quickest.
Do I need to tell you, who won that game? OK, I am a driven computer
person, he wasn't. But still, I do believe, in most cases you work far
quicker with good shortcut keyboard commands. Even before people will
have reached their mouse, I will have pressed the two or three
keystrokes, to perform a certain task. And, quite often, when working
with sighted people, I hear comments like 'oh, let's see, where did my
mouse pointer g"' And, then they start to rush that thing back and
forth, so as to find out, where on the screen they are. And having found
out, it is time to start moving it to the desired position. Finally,
they can start clickng the mouse. Pfew! I am three lines ahead with my
typing, at this moment; having performed the task way back! (Smile!)
You know, sometimes I get the feeling, that if soemthing is technically
posible, LET's GO FOR IT! No matter if it is practical, just let's go
for it; cause it is technically possible. How did people ever do without
a mouse?
Yes, the way GW has sorted things out, with keyboard control for the
mouse - I guess - is some of the better ways to do the job, for the
blind. OK, it might not always be the perfect solution, but in most
cases work pretty fine. Besides, I really think, we as blind people have
enough 'gadgets' to drag around, and fool with. If I can save myself the
hazzle of having to keep track of yet another plastic thing on my desk -
be it wired, or wireless - I greatly prefer doing so.
----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 4:00 PM
Subject: Mouse Vs Keyboard
I find this topic on mouse envy rather interesting. I suspect it is a
generational issue. My children are taught keyboarding, however they
don't seem to have reached the same level of proficiency as people who
learned how to type in the olden days on those manual Underwood and
Olivetti manual typewriters.
I see a similar phenomenon at work. People who used to use those word
processors, such as the ones put out by Wang, do not rely on the mouse
unless they have to do so. They claim that it is faster to keep their
hands on the keyboard than it is to constantly go back and forth from
keyboard to mouse.
Personally I am glad that GW Micro doesn't focus too much on allowing me
to use their product with a physical mouse. I don't need anything that
will force me to work more slowly. The keyboard mouse navigation keys do
more than I require.
People wonder why WordPerfect has hung in there for so long. It is not
only because Corel products cost less than Microsoft, it is because
there are still enough of us old curmudgeons around who recognize the
value of good keyboarding (once known as typing) skills. WordPerfect has
a significant amount of keyboard options. I must admit, Microsoft is
catching up. Someone must have told them about the benefits of the
keyboard. And to give younger generations credit, I notice that as they
become more and more familiar with keyboard commands they quickly adopt
them in loo of the mouse.
Finally it is not only those of us who are blind or vision impaired that
are challenged by a physical mouse: there are other disabilities, such
as types of dyslexia, that make using a mouse difficult, if not
impossible.
Vic
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