I use the mouse emulation all the time.
In Nod 32, it's an easy way to get around the screen.

Pastor Gil

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From: "Bill Scherer" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 8:46 AM
To: "Window-Eyes discussion list" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Mouse Vs Keyboard

Yep we'd be truely in trouble with out our mouse emulation. Like it or not we need it.
Bill

----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Lanier" <[email protected]> To: "'Mike Rogers'" <[email protected]>; "'Raul A. Gallegos'" <[email protected]>
Cc: "'GW Info Discussion List'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 10:37 AM
Subject: RE: Mouse Vs Keyboard


Everyone,

The mouse keys are another tool in which one can do battle with programs
that aren't accessable otherwise. I use them all the time for one thing or
another.

Basically, if I have my brain wrapped around it, the mouse keys emulate the
movement of the physical mouse.  In other words, the keys drag around the
mouse pointer and place it on something you can click on.

Warm Regards.. Joe Lanier


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Rogers [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 10:32 AM
To: Raul A. Gallegos
Cc: GW Info Discussion List
Subject: Re: Mouse Vs Keyboard

Amen to that. I am computer challenged, and find the mouse keys invaluable.
Just wish I understood what I'm doing.

Mike

On 9/3/2010 10:57 AM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
Now now, that's not very nice. Like it or not, the mouse is a useful
tool for many. Perhaps not so much so to a blind person, but doing
that to someone who is trying to help you would be like someone
turning off my speakers while I was trying to help them. It would make
me not want to help them in the future. Additionally, using the mouse
equivalent of Window-Eyes, I.E. the number pad to move the mouse
pointer, can be just as effective as a physical mouse. I use it all
the time to get around programs and would fee lost without it.

On 9/2/2010 6:11 PM, Tyler Juranek wrote:

Folks,
  I agree with david here.
  The mouse is one of those out-of-date products.
  It does nothing but waste time.
  When I ask a sighted person to do something for me, they go right for
the mouse.
  You know what I do?
  Knock there fingers right off the thing!
  Tyler

----- Original Message -----
From: "David"<[email protected]>
To:<[email protected]>,<[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, Sep 2, 2010 9:26:14
Subject: Re: Mouse Vs Keyboard





his
Funny you mentioned this. Some years ago, I was delivering a new
computer to one customer. I started to teach him how to use the keyboard, by pressing Alt-F to go to the File menu, and then do your stuff there, or even
just press CTRL-S to save the document. The guy, stubbornly insisted on
using his poor plastic thing, the mouse. So, I let him sit there and fool
around with it for a while. But you know, he took a few moments for every
little thing he needed to do.

Finally, I made him an offer: Now, I said, let us try this out. Me being
blind, and hence prefering the keyboard commands, you being sighted
prefering the mouse. Let us do ten operations here in this very application,
you go ahead with your mouse, and I will do the same tasks with the
keyboard. Then, let's see, who is performing the quickest.

Do I need to tell you, who won that game? OK, I am a driven computer
person, he wasn't. But still, I do believe, in most cases you work
far quicker with good shortcut keyboard commands. Even before people
will have reached their mouse, I will have pressed the two or three
keystrokes, to perform a certain task. And, quite often, when
working with sighted people, I hear comments like 'oh, let's see,
where did my mouse pointer g"'  And, then they start to rush that
thing back and forth, so as to find out, where on the screen they
are. And having found out, it is time to start moving it to the
desired position. Finally, they can start clickng the mouse. Pfew! I
am three lines ahead with my typing, at this moment; having
performed the task way back! (Smile!)

You know, sometimes I get the feeling, that if soemthing is technically
posible, LET's GO FOR IT! No matter if it is practical, just let's go for
it; cause it is technically possible. How did people ever do without a
mouse?

Yes, the way GW has sorted things out, with keyboard control for the
mouse - I guess - is some of the better ways to do the job, for the blind.
OK, it might not always be the perfect solution, but in most cases work
pretty fine. Besides, I really think, we as blind people have enough
'gadgets' to drag around, and fool with. If I can save myself the hazzle of having to keep track of yet another plastic thing on my desk - be it wired,
or wireless - I greatly prefer doing so.

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