I think you better do your homework, if you are not a Window-Eyes
user, you better check out some facts before making these statements.
I've been a Window-Eyes user and a previously Vocal-Eyes user, since
the early 90s.
Get your facts straight here.
If you don't, you will get a lot of flack from people on this list.
When it comes to support, and product, there is nothing like Window-Eyes.
Okay, let's face it, nothing is perfect, not even Window-Eyes, but I
can easily mouse around with Window-Eyes. I don't care for other
screen readers way of mousing around, but that is the best feature of
Window-Eyes.
It's a free country, but I think if you are not totally blind, and
you are not a Window-Eyes user, you don't
really have the right to say some of the things you are saying
about GW Micro, and this great screen reader.
I'm glad that GW Micro is more loving than I am.
Pat Ferguson
At 07:14 PM 9/1/2010, you wrote:
It makes complete sense, here let me show you, provided I'm not censored.
I'm on the list to see what Windows eyes can, and cannot do via user
feedback, as a benchmark for the best of the screen readers. I have
not seen any screen readers give the mouse back to the blind as the
primary mode of navigation. Unreasonable, no sense.
I've made software that really is much better than WE, and I want to
begin marketing it at a REASONABLE price. I want to make an honest
living, and sleep at night knowing that someone is happy to zoom
around with my software with ease and full quick access to windows
applications, and the bulk of web apps.
That's another mistake I read, that they really don't give you
realistic access to all window objeccts like I do in my
software. It's like they can't or something. Why? Need help?
WE has carried the torch well, until around 2003 where they didn't
keep up with whats available in .net tech. I can do all three,
vbscript, vb6, and vb.net(2005).
Am I not mistaken that Windows Eyes cost $1250?
That is extra profit, no matter how you look at it. Profit is
okay, but extortion no.
I would be competing with GW, and have a more affordable price(thus
forcing WE to lower), and more usable product, with more
access. Helping many blind & mobility impaired & amputee people in
the process with full quick access to windows, very similar to what
a sighted person has.
Well it's not competition really, in my favour.{grins}
Shane,
I don't understand, if you're not blind, and not a user of window
eyes, then why are you on this list?
also, what version of narrator do you have? Mine isn't even in the
same league as window eyes, there's no comparison?
you've got a point about the blind who are poor; but then,
everything from housing to all assistive technology, to TV sets, may
be out of their financial reach. the problem of people being poor
isn't one we can solve by telling companies they aren't allowed to
make a profit.
If you want to see what a non-profit model gets you, check out
NVDA. not bad I'm told, but not in the same league as WindowEyes or
it's competitors.
And finally, don't forget how much employment a company like
WindowEyes gives to the blind community. If you include their
dealers, probably 99% of their employees are visually impaired, and
you're probably talking about hundreds of individuals who have
employment because of GW.
sorry, but your message didn't make any sense at all.
Chip
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From: shane findley [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 6:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen Readers
Discussion Panel Questions
"GW Micro believes that having a free screen reader as part of the
operating system does a disservice to Blind computer users."
I thought this to be a hypocritical viewpoint. Somewhat charlatanistic.
It is highly prejudicial to exclude low income users, or encourage
an over priced payment plan like some sort of layaway. The price is
highly debatable. It's seems to have to many zeroes.
I think it's a typo, but no one seems to see it. (pun intended)
The program itself is not even practical, nor signifigantly better
than the windows narrotor for common use.
Perhaps I should write the Obama administration to see what he
thinks about GW micros position on affordable pricing of screen
readers for the blind/disabled.
If the president tested Window Eyes head to head with "real"
software for the blind, he would have to "keep it real" and tell you
exactly as I have. If not then we have a conspiracy on our hands,
where the blind are being held back on purpose for extra
profits. Or possibly for backdoor code abilities that rely on
accessibility to mask their true intent.
I will not allow exploitation of the blind, in any case.
Window Eyes could be much better within a couple months of work.
I mean several times better than it is right now. I know this for a
fact because I am a developer that has done it. I'd crumple WE, and
throw it in the trash if I were blind.
GW probably knows it too, but keeps it secret from the users,
because they just don't want to spend the time required to fully
wrap their heads arround it. Or they can't, yet still want to enjoy
the positive cash flow. The price shows the greed, not crafsmanship.
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