I think up and down arrow should scroll enough for them. -----Original Message----- From: Traci [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 6:17 PM To: gwInfo Subject: Re: Mouse Vs Keyboard
I have a question for you guys. How does one scroll with the keyboard? When I'm sharing the screen with a sighted person, they often ask me move it up or down, and I have no idea how to do this with the keyboard! *smile* Traci ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert C" <[email protected]> To: "Tyler Juranek" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 3:14 PM Subject: Re: Mouse Vs Keyboard > Out of date or not, for most people its simply one more option at > their > behest. If its not of use to anyone, unplug it and toss it in the trash. > > Quote of the nanosecond. . . > Energizer Bunny arrested - charged with battery. > Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn > E-mail- > [email protected] > Home Page- > http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tyler Juranek" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 3:11 PM > Subject: Re: Mouse Vs Keyboard > > >> Folks, >> I agree with david here. >> The mouse is one of those out-of-date products. >> It does nothing but waste time. >> When I ask a sighted person to do something for me, they go right for >> the >> mouse. >> You know what I do? >> Knock there fingers right off the thing! >> Tyler >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> >> Date: Thursday, Sep 2, 2010 9:26:14 >> Subject: Re: Mouse Vs Keyboard >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> his >>> Funny you mentioned this. Some years ago, I was delivering a new >>> computer to one customer. I started to teach him how to use the >>> keyboard, by pressing Alt-F to go to the File menu, and then do your >>> stuff there, or even just press CTRL-S to save the document. The guy, >>> stubbornly insisted on using his poor plastic thing, the mouse. So, I >>> let him sit there and fool around with it for a while. But you know, he >>> took a few moments for every little thing he needed to do. >>> >>> Finally, I made him an offer: Now, I said, let us try this out. Me >>> being >>> blind, and hence prefering the keyboard commands, you being sighted >>> prefering the mouse. Let us do ten operations here in this very >>> application, you go ahead with your mouse, and I will do the same tasks >>> with the keyboard. Then, let's see, who is performing the quickest. >>> >>> Do I need to tell you, who won that game? OK, I am a driven computer >>> person, he wasn't. But still, I do believe, in most cases you work far >>> quicker with good shortcut keyboard commands. Even before people will >>> have reached their mouse, I will have pressed the two or three >>> keystrokes, to perform a certain task. And, quite often, when working >>> with sighted people, I hear comments like 'oh, let's see, where did my >>> mouse pointer g"' And, then they start to rush that thing back and >>> forth, so as to find out, where on the screen they are. And having found >>> out, it is time to start moving it to the desired position. Finally, >>> they can start clickng the mouse. Pfew! I am three lines ahead with my >>> typing, at this moment; having performed the task way back! (Smile!) >>> >>> You know, sometimes I get the feeling, that if soemthing is >>> technically >>> posible, LET's GO FOR IT! No matter if it is practical, just let's go >>> for it; cause it is technically possible. How did people ever do without >>> a mouse? >>> >>> Yes, the way GW has sorted things out, with keyboard control for the >>> mouse - I guess - is some of the better ways to do the job, for the >>> blind. OK, it might not always be the perfect solution, but in most >>> cases work pretty fine. Besides, I really think, we as blind people have >>> enough 'gadgets' to drag around, and fool with. If I can save myself the >>> hazzle of having to keep track of yet another plastic thing on my desk - >>> be it wired, or wireless - I greatly prefer doing so. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 4:00 PM >>> Subject: Mouse Vs Keyboard >>> >>> >>> I find this topic on mouse envy rather interesting. I suspect it is >>> a >>> generational issue. My children are taught keyboarding, however they >>> don't seem to have reached the same level of proficiency as people who >>> learned how to type in the olden days on those manual Underwood and >>> Olivetti manual typewriters. >>> >>> I see a similar phenomenon at work. People who used to use those >>> word >>> processors, such as the ones put out by Wang, do not rely on the mouse >>> unless they have to do so. They claim that it is faster to keep their >>> hands on the keyboard than it is to constantly go back and forth from >>> keyboard to mouse. >>> >>> Personally I am glad that GW Micro doesn't focus too much on >>> allowing me >>> to use their product with a physical mouse. I don't need anything that >>> will force me to work more slowly. The keyboard mouse navigation keys do >>> more than I require. >>> >>> People wonder why WordPerfect has hung in there for so long. It is >>> not >>> only because Corel products cost less than Microsoft, it is because >>> there are still enough of us old curmudgeons around who recognize the >>> value of good keyboarding (once known as typing) skills. WordPerfect has >>> a significant amount of keyboard options. I must admit, Microsoft is >>> catching up. Someone must have told them about the benefits of the >>> keyboard. And to give younger generations credit, I notice that as they >>> become more and more familiar with keyboard commands they quickly adopt >>> them in loo of the mouse. >>> >>> Finally it is not only those of us who are blind or vision impaired >>> that >>> are challenged by a physical mouse: there are other disabilities, such >>> as types of dyslexia, that make using a mouse difficult, if not >>> impossible. >>> >>> Vic >>> >>> If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >>> sender >>> only. 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