Reg, since no one else is chiming in and saying they are also seeing this (Word 2007 folks), I'm guessing it's related to windows 2000. yes, I would try the direct text script, and it is still available.
I think GW is having to make fixes and compromises which do not work under non-supported operating systems like windows 2000, and they can't really be blamed for that. I'm sure they'll support xp as long as they can, but I know of at least one fix which only works under windows 7. I think we'll see more and more of those as time goes on, and MS switches to UIA in place of MSAA. there is a patch to allow UIA on XP, but only XP sp3, and not at all for windows 2000 (this is MS doing this), so you will not be able to run any office 2010 or VS 2010 on the windows 2000 without encountering some screen reading problems (so don't upgrade). it also means you won't be able to run applications written using VS 2010, which will start to hit the market soon. Actually, they will run, but window eyes may not read properly. hth, Chip -----Original Message----- From: Reg Webb [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 1:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: anyone having difficulties with MS Word Hi Chip, and thanks for trying. I'm not currently running any scripts with MS Word - perhaps I should be. I'll give the Direct Text script a try if it's still available. The "Save As" dialogue in Word can't be maximised, and I'm not running any kind of indiscriminate window maximiser. I forgot to add that this is running under Windows2000, but you'd think a standard save as dialogue should be exactly that. Anyway, I'll try that script, and any other thoughts you may have would be most welcome. Reg In message <cf0927f4b5b34ec19ef9db3fbec67...@orangedell>, Chip Orange <[email protected]> writes >Hi Reg, > >At one time, Jamal had a script out which bypassed the normal method WE >used for reading when you used the arrow keys; I think it was meant to >solve this problem, but it had problems of it's own at times. It is >called Direct Text. I know this sounds strange, but I thought this >problem had been fixed, so if you happen to still be running the direct >text script, I'd try disabling it first; if you aren't running it, then >this is the kind of problem it was meant for, so I'd give it a try. > >The next script to look for is Windows Maximizer. I've had exactly >this kind of issue when using windows maximizer, because it tries to >maximize almost any window, and some which aren't meant to be >maximized, it did so any way, then I found they wouldn't read >correctly. so, if you're running windows maximizer, I'd disable it and >try without it. I've switched over to windows manager for automatic >maximizing of windows, because it makes you specify what should be >maximized, where-as windows maximizer makes you specify what should >not, and it's something that gets forgotten by most of us when we come across a window which can't be maximized. > >finally, to see if a dialog can be maximized, I just use the standard >technique of alt-spacebar and then see if the maximize choice is >available on the system menu popup. > >I hope one of these works for you, as I don't have access to a 2007 pc, >but I will try this on 2010. > >Chip > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Reg Webb [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 2:47 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: anyone having difficulties with MS Word > >Thanks Chip. OK, first basic question. I obviously know how to >maximise the main window, but I don't see any means of confirming the >status of individual dialogues. How do I do that? Right now, in the >file name edit box, the arrow keys will speak the first character the >first time I address the box. After that, it speaks no characters at >all, not even the first one. I get around this by making sure I'm at >the beginning of the box and then I can type the whole file name, being >sure that the old name will be erased. I can then tab away from the box >and back to it, so Window-Eyes will read the whole thing, which it does >just fine. It just won't read individual characters. Don't know if that identifies my problem any better. > > >Reg > > >In message <e182452c1acc4fd9a498c5016a932...@orangedell>, Chip Orange ><[email protected]> writes >>sorry; I was out sick today, and Word 2010 is at my work, so my answer >>will have to be based on it, and wait til Monday. >> >>otherwise, I have Word 2003 at home, and haven't had this issue. >> >>have you checked to see if the dialog is maximized? unmaximized >>dialogs do account for a lot of non-speaking weirdness. >> >>thanks for this and the other reply. >> >>Chip >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Reg Webb [mailto:[email protected]] >>Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 5:03 AM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: anyone having difficulties with MS Word >> >>Hi Chip and all >> >>My question is laughably basic. I'm back with Word7 with the >>Microsoft add on to open other document types, and the file name edit >>box in the >"Save as" >>dialogue has never read properly, by which I mean that the whole thing >>reads if I tab to it, but I can't review the text with the arrow keys, >>so I always have to write the whole file name since I can't edit it. >>I'm sure this is fixable if I knew how to do it. Basic guidance please. >> >> >>Reg >> >> >>In message <eb56678eefe14efab64304ab20b6e...@joesbox>, Joe Lanier >><[email protected]> writes >>>Chip, >>> >>>One thing I would really love to have is a reliable means to pull an >>>imbedded image from a document and eather save it to a file or >>>automagically push it into an ocr software like kurzweil 1000. >>> >>>Warm Regards.. Joe Lanier >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Chip Orange [mailto:[email protected]] >>>Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:26 PM >>>To: [email protected] >>>Subject: anyone having difficulties with MS Word >>> >>>Hi all, >>> >>>many of you may know me as the author of the MS Word (and MS Office) >>>scripts. >>> >>>sometime recently on another list, someone made a statement that >>>"jaws worked much better with Word than did windowEyes." >>> >>>I informed them that I didn't believe this to be the case, largely >>>due to the 4 Word related scripts WE now has available to cover >>>different areas of accessibility and convenience functions. >>> >>>I'd like to know if anyone is having any accessibility issues with >>>Word, that perhaps I could address in a script? Anything that could >>>be said to give the competition an advantage when using Word? >>> >>>(I'm currently working on accessibility for text boxes and frames). >>> >>>I know it sounds a little odd, but I don't use Word in the same >>>sophisticated way that many others do, and so I'm often not aware of >>>various advanced issues. >>> >>>please go ahead and respond on list, so that others can comment on >>>any observations, problems, or questions. >>> >>>thanks. >>> >>>Chip >>>If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >>>sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your >>>message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your >>>message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. >>> >>>GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You >>>can manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv. >>> >>>If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >>>sender >>only. >>>If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is >>>related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to gw- >>>[email protected] so the entire list will receive it. >>> >>>GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You >>>can manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv. >>> >> >>-- >>Reg Webb >>Skype name regwebb >> Website: http://www.regwebb.com If you reply to this >>message it will be delivered to the original sender only. If your >>reply would benefit others on the list and your message is related to >>GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to >>[email protected] so the entire list will receive it. >> >>GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. 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