Hi Steve,

Well, for some reason, unknown to myself or the IT guy I called in for support, 
Window-Eyes simply disappeared from my Windows 7 PC. We assume that it did some 
sort of software recovery to before Window-eyes was installed, but could find 
no evidence.

I then had to do an emergency removal of Window-eyes and a full re-install, no 
real problem there.

I then thought, "Why not try the new set files for Lotus Notes". After all, we 
are using very little of the real functionality of Notes, really just using it 
as a document repository.

I did so and to my surprise, the set file both worked and the odd behaviour has 
gone away.

My only issue now is with the graphics that are not spoken in the native set 
file.

The two that are not present, in native form, as far as I can see those for the 
"selected" and "deleted" items in a list of documents.

If I use the virtual mouse I can see the graphics symbol is in place, but 
cannot get to it.
I used the usual method of <next< and <previous> Place (sorry, I have forgotten 
he correct name for that). I use the numpad <insert> 7 and 9 . The virtual 
mouse moves around, but jumps over the graphics symbol.

I will carry on playing with that until I get at those elusive graphics symbols.

Thanks for your help.



Regards, John.

John Farley
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-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 10 January 2012 17:16
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Old Lotus Notes Client and Windows 7

John,

Also play with highlighting.  I think that Window-Eyes still tracked a focus 
rectangle, but maybe something there isn't working right under Windows 7.  I do 
remember this kind of problem coming and going away over time.  Also, and of 
course I'm grasping at straws here, try track mouse with focus in case that 
helps.  If you are already doing that, try turning it off.

That's a real pain.  I can remember that when I had this kind of problem, I 
accidentally deleted the wrong messages from time to time.  We also have more 
reclosing options now than I had when I was using Notes 4.5, and I suppose it 
is worth experimenting with that.  From what you are saying, it sounds as 
though something about Window-Eyes and Windows 7 is causing these lists to be 
handled differently, but I do remember this being a problem from time to time 
before Windows 7.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:52:25 +0000, [email protected] wrote:

>Hi Steve,

>The full picture is that on a Windows 2003 server we have the Lotus
>Domino host running the DB. The
users then use Lotus Notes 4.5 clients on their PCs to access the DB. There are 
a number of other people already running under Windows 7 without any issue.
>

>To upgrade to the current level of Lotus Notes will not happen. In fact we 
>will be changing our tool in
due course.

>Although the lines in question are not at the extremes of the screen, I will 
>try to resize it and see
what happened.

>Thanks for your help.



>Regards, John.
>
>John Farley
>***********************************************************************

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: 09 January 2012 19:16
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: Old Lotus Notes Client and Windows 7

>John,

>Are you still using Lotus Notes 4?  I didn't think that would even run under 
>Windows 7, in fact it was
my understanding that there are problems running any versions of Notes before 8 
with Windows 7.

>Are you certain that the problem is not with lines at the bottom or top of the 
>Windows?  I do remember
an issue where if a line was only partly visible that Window-Eyes could read it 
even though it was not
completely visible and that confused Window-Eyes in terms of establishing which 
line was highlighted.
>Having the window resized so that the top and bottom of the window occurred 
>between lines seemed to
help.  However, if you are really using Lotus Notes 4, you might have to 
upgrade to get the problem
resolved.

>Best regards,

>Steve Jacobson

>On Mon, 9 Jan 2012 15:04:17 +0000, [email protected] wrote:

>>Hello list,

>>Here at work we use a very old version of Lotus Notes as a document 
>>repository.

>>Until recently there was no problem with this. I had kept a Lotus Notes
>>set file from Lotus Notes
>version 4 and simply installed that whenever there was an upgrade to WE which 
>bought with it a newer
versions of the Lotus Notes set file.

>>I have now had my PC upgraded to Windows 7 from Windows XP and have some 
>>problems.

>>The issue seems to happen in many of my views.

>>If I arrow down a list of document titles I will on occasion have the 
>>incorrect one read out by WE.

>>To try to describe the issue a little better:

>>On the page, I have lines 1 through 15 displayed.
>>When, for example, I have narrowed down to line 7, the values on line 8
>>will actually be read out. This
>happens if I go up the list of lines or down it.
>>If I use the virtual mouse to view the screen, all lines are there correctly.

>>I could well then get the same issue with lines 13 and 14.

>>I have compared the set-up on my previous XP and the Windows 7 PCs.
>>Both have the same screen
>resolution and font size.

>>Can anyone suggest how I can resolve this?

>>Thanks.



>>Regards, John.

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