Well, if the demand is there, and it is, knowing since there is 30
messages in this one topic alone, there may sure indeed be a rewrite
possibly before 8.0 is released I suppose. Of course, I'm just a
window-eyes user, and not a Window-Eyes dev, so... who knows.
In that case, if they use your style of browse mode, is the Insert
Layout app even necessary?


On 11/11/12, Warren Logan <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't care what the hotkeys are. Just makes sense to have them. I hate to
> use this argument but every other screenreader does, and they are built
> directly in to the screen reader and not just thrown in with a script.
> Again
> you could get rid of control search mode but keep the funtionality of
> moving
> to elements with the numbers. This can already be accomplished with
> headings, so just extend it to the rest of them. Links, buttons, forms,
> combo boxes, edit boxes, paragraphs, graphics, landmarks, etc, etc.
>
>
>
> Warren
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sim Kah Yong [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 12:19 AM
> To: Patrick; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Control Search Mode Is Overkill: Re: issue with insert key
> layout
>
>
> Sorry I meant to have a new hotkey B for navigating to buttons. Thanks.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patrick" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 2:27 AM
> Subject: Re: Control Search Mode Is Overkill: Re: issue with insert key
> layout
>
>
>> Control b? B is not even being used as a way to navigate by an
>> element.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sim Kah Yong
>> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 11:57 PM
>> To: Munawar Bijani ; Patrick ; [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Control Search Mode Is Overkill: Re: issue with insert
>> key
>> layout
>>
>> Just a suggestion, can GW Micro incorporate a new hotkey control B for
>> moving to button so we do not have to press two hotkeys..  Thanks.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Munawar Bijani" <[email protected]>
>> To: "Patrick" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 6:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: Control Search Mode Is Overkill: Re: issue with insert key
>> layout
>>
>>
>>> Yes, this was a mistake in my last post, but my frustrations still
>>> hold.
>>> You can move to the next and previous controls but for things like
>>> buttons, you have to press two keys just to move to the next button.
>>> Munawar A. Bijani
>>> Blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com
>>> BPCPrograms, LLC
>>> http://www.bpcprograms.com
>>> [email protected]
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Patrick
>>> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 10:36 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: Control Search Mode Is Overkill: Re: issue with insert key
>>> layout
>>>
>>> He's not saying next control. He's referring to specific controls.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Tom Kingston
>>> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 5:09 AM
>>> To: Gwmicro gw-info mail list
>>> Subject: Re: Control Search Mode Is Overkill: Re: issue with insert
>>> key layout
>>>
>>> C and Shift-C are single key strokes for next and previous control.
>>>
>>> Hth,
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/9/2012 5:35 AM, Munawar Bijani wrote:
>>>> This was one of my biggest problems with W-E and why I still have
>>>> JAWS installed on my system. I feel like the Control Search
>>>> Mode,although useful, is overkill in most cases. For instance, E
>>>> should move you to the next Edit Box, not fieldset since no one
>>>> really pays attention to fieldsets anyway. B is free right now and
>>>> should move you to the next button instead of having to press N + B.
>>>> Another shortcut that will be useful is the ability to move to the
>>>> next control without pressing two keystrokes
>>>> (N+C.)
>>>> I think Control Search Mode should still exist as a way to execute
>>>> more specific movement commands like third button or third control,
>>>> as I have found this quite useful, but for just single element
>>>> movement I find it to be unnecessary. Munawar A. Bijani
>>>> Blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com
>>>> BPCPrograms, LLC
>>>> http://www.bpcprograms.com
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> *From:* Warren Logan <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, November 09, 2012 1:10 AM
>>>> *To:* 'Patrick' <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> *Cc:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> *Subject:* RE: issue with insert key layout
>>>> Agreed. We shouldn't have to use a script just to access some extra
>>>> browse mode commands. I'm sure we can't be the only ones to feel this
>>>> way...
>>>> Warren
>>>>
>>>>     -----Original Message-----
>>>>     *From:* Patrick [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>     *Sent:* Thursday, November 08, 2012 2:54 PM
>>>>     *To:* [email protected]
>>>>     *Subject:* issue with insert key layout
>>>>
>>>>     When you turn on the insert key layout, if you're on a webpage
>>>>     already, the keys don't work til you refresh. Can we please just
>>>>     have the commands built into browse mode so I don't have to do two
>>>>     key presses to get to a control or have to use an app? I don't see
>>>>     why this isn't, if not included by default, a browse mode layout
>>>> option.
>>>>     Thanks,
>>>>     Patrick
>>>>
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