Yes, you are correct, and I should not have said that I would get
one, as I will not get an iPad Mini for several reasons.
1. I don't want to be locked into Apple.
That was one reason why I tried the Android platform, but it just
didn't work out. I'm not upset about it, either.
2. I love Windows.
I can't say I love Microsoft, but I am pretty good with Windows stuff.
3. I love Gw Micro and Window-Eyes and I'll do anything to support them.
4. the iPad Mini and all Apple devices are way too expensive.
Thanks much.
Many Blessings,
Pat Ferguson
"I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me." Phillippians 4:13.
At 03:04 PM 1/7/2014, you wrote:
Well pat as a windows user I wouldn't do that. Simply get a windows tablit
that has lte support. With the link I posted earlier to day for you they do
have the lte option. You will save a lot of money and be on a operating
system you are used to and have the keyboard support you want. Keyboard
support on IOS frankly sucks because the support they offer is basicly to
turn the keyboard in to a touch screen emulation device. A keyboard is not
a touch screen and there is more power in a keyboard and the support should
not be limited in this way. Coming from a windows fan boy who really wants
to escape from the Iphone walled garden.
-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Ferguson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 12:42 PM
To: Alan Paganelli
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Window-eyes on a Microsoft Tablet
Great explanation of the IOS touch screen.
Well, I just might have to save my money and buy an iPad Mini. lol.
Thanks much.
Many Blessings,
Pat Ferguson
"I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me." Phillippians 4:13.
At 11:19 AM 1/7/2014, you wrote:
>Ok, I'll take a stab at explaining the difference between the touch
>screen verses a screen reader based system. A screen reader and it
>doesn't matter which one it is, work the same way. They read from left
>to right and top to bottom. That's the simple explanation. Of course
>there are short cuts to do certain things like pressing H for headings
>or L for links etc. Helpful but not informative of what the screen
>really looks like to a sighted person.
>
>A sighted person will look at the screen and see there might be a block
>of text under a picture on the top left corner of the screen. There is
>very often something that says select from the left side of the screen
>and place it in the right side section.
>
>You can wave your mouse around etc but you still don't get to see what
>a sighted person sees.
>
>With a touch screen system such as on an iPhone because it's the most
>widely used phone by the blind, your index finger becomes your mouse
>pointer. There is one huge advantage here. You have feeling in your
>index finger. Your brain tells you where your at on the screen not the
>screen reader trying to describe it to you. So, as you move your index
>finger around the screen, what ever is directly under your index finger
>is described. If it's a block of text, that text is read out loud to
>you by Voice over. There are buttons on the screen at the top of the
>screen called status indicators. These include signal strengths, WI-FI
>bars Bluetooth Status and remaining battery power. There can be other
>status indicators there as well. At the bottom edge are commonly used
>items such as phone, email, Internet, or music. Between the top and
>bottom rows are the apps or as we use to call them on the computer,
>programs.
>
>This is just a generalized look but there is enough here to give you an
>idea of the differences. As more and more people go from desktops to
>laptops and from laptops to portables, sails of windows based computers
>keeps falling farther and farther behind that of portables. Touch
>Screens have been around on windows laptops for more years then you
>might think. My Toshiba laptop had a touch screen and I ran
>Window-Eyes on it. At that time though, it was optional how you wanted
>to use the screen and not being able to see the screen, I went with the
>screen reader and turned off the touch screen features.
>
>I'm looking for another computer to replace my old Netbook Computer I
>used for email and web browsing. That will be replaced with an iPad
>Air when my AT&T store gets their stock of Airs with a 128 GB hard
>drive as well as WI-FI and cellular data. We enjoy traveling in our
>motor home and you can't always get WI-FI and cellular data is much
>easier to lay hands on.
>
>The windows so called tablets have been more of a joke than a serious
>contender.
>
>Ok that's my take on things for what it's worth. And remember, it's
>worth what you paid for it. "Nothing"
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Alan
>
>Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act
>now!!!!! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know
everything.
>
>Please click on:
>HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances
>played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format
>formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for
listening!
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron or Susan Denis"
><[email protected]>
>Cc: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 8:45 AM
>Subject: Re: Window-eyes on a Microsoft Tablet
>
>
>>Would those of you enamored with touch screens explain the advantage
>>or attraction? I'm of course approaching this as one with no vision.
>>RD
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message----- From: Jim Grimsby JR.
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 4:43 AM
>>To: 'David Plumlee'
>>Cc: [email protected]
>>Subject: RE: Window-eyes on a Microsoft Tablet
>>
>>Hay man I am so there. The cool thing is these bad boy have a usb
>>port on them. got my self a otg cable and now you just connect a usb
>>hub kick back and pound away on that old bad boy keyboard. The
>>speaker on this bad boy tablit are like way loud. So you will be able
>>to here it. now when you got to go some where you can leave the stuff
>>at home hook up the new blue tooth keyboard that folds up and fits in
>>your back pocket or get a case for the tablit and get going where
>>ever. You got the touch screen and keyboard. It works good. Now gw
>>micro here us again we want and we need touch. Look at what the other
>>guys are doing and for god sake do it even beter.
>>Not saying the others are bad but I know gw micro can do better. I
>>will post some of my ideas on this subject later on.
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: David Plumlee [mailto:[email protected]]
>>Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 9:21 PM
>>To: Chris H
>>Cc: gwmicro
>>Subject: Re: Window-eyes on a Microsoft Tablet
>>
>>I must admit at the outset a bias on my part: I am a confirmed knob
>>freak at age 69. I have also operated the Apple IPhone with all of
>>its gestures and touch operations; and for my part, nothing beats a
>>good solid mechanical keyboard with real buttons that you can press to
>>reliably get what you want!
>>Perhaps touch screens will become more reliable as they improve; but I
>>don't think I'd want to use a tablet computer as long as I could have
>>something with real buttons to operate. Granted, the modern PC has no
>>knobs; but the buttons generally carry the same reliability that you
>>can get from knobs that you turn.
>>
>>But for those who want touch, gestures, and all that, I sincerely hope
>>that Window-Eyes can someday soon run on such equipment. For my part,
>>though, give me knobs and buttons!
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Chris H" <[email protected]>
>>To: "Kevin Huber" <[email protected]>; "gw-info"
>><[email protected]>
>>Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 2:49 PM
>>Subject: Re: Window-eyes on a Microsoft Tablet
>>
>>
>>>Hi
>>>probably not, Window-Eyes does not work with touch currently.
>>>
>>>Regards Chris
>>>
>>>On 06/01/2014 19:58, Kevin Huber wrote:
>>>>Hi:
>>>>Can anyone tell me if Window-eyes 8 works on one of those Microsoft
>>>>Windows 8 tablets? If so, which tablets does Window-eyes work with
>>>>and which ones does it not work with?
>>>>Kevin Huber
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Thanks much.
Many Blessings,
Pat Ferguson
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Many Blessings,
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