Ok, I'll take a stab at explaining the difference between the touch screen
verses a screen reader based system. A screen reader and it doesn't matter
which one it is, work the same way. They read from left to right and top to
bottom. That's the simple explanation. Of course there are short cuts to
do certain things like pressing H for headings or L for links etc. Helpful
but not informative of what the screen really looks like to a sighted
person.
A sighted person will look at the screen and see there might be a block of
text under a picture on the top left corner of the screen. There is very
often something that says select from the left side of the screen and place
it in the right side section.
You can wave your mouse around etc but you still don't get to see what a
sighted person sees.
With a touch screen system such as on an iPhone because it's the most widely
used phone by the blind, your index finger becomes your mouse pointer.
There is one huge advantage here. You have feeling in your index finger.
Your brain tells you where your at on the screen not the screen reader
trying to describe it to you. So, as you move your index finger around the
screen, what ever is directly under your index finger is described. If it's
a block of text, that text is read out loud to you by Voice over. There are
buttons on the screen at the top of the screen called status indicators.
These include signal strengths, WI-FI bars Bluetooth Status and remaining
battery power. There can be other status indicators there as well. At the
bottom edge are commonly used items such as phone, email, Internet, or
music. Between the top and bottom rows are the apps or as we use to call
them on the computer, programs.
This is just a generalized look but there is enough here to give you an idea
of the differences. As more and more people go from desktops to laptops and
from laptops to portables, sails of windows based computers keeps falling
farther and farther behind that of portables. Touch Screens have been
around on windows laptops for more years then you might think. My Toshiba
laptop had a touch screen and I ran Window-Eyes on it. At that time though,
it was optional how you wanted to use the screen and not being able to see
the screen, I went with the screen reader and turned off the touch screen
features.
I'm looking for another computer to replace my old Netbook Computer I used
for email and web browsing. That will be replaced with an iPad Air when my
AT&T store gets their stock of Airs with a 128 GB hard drive as well as
WI-FI and cellular data. We enjoy traveling in our motor home and you can't
always get WI-FI and cellular data is much easier to lay hands on.
The windows so called tablets have been more of a joke than a serious
contender.
Ok that's my take on things for what it's worth. And remember, it's worth
what you paid for it. "Nothing"
Regards,
Alan
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron or Susan Denis" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: Window-eyes on a Microsoft Tablet
Would those of you enamored with touch screens explain the advantage or
attraction? I'm of course approaching this as one with no vision. RD
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Grimsby JR.
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 4:43 AM
To: 'David Plumlee'
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Window-eyes on a Microsoft Tablet
Hay man I am so there. The cool thing is these bad boy have a usb port on
them. got my self a otg cable and now you just connect a usb hub kick
back and pound away on that old bad boy keyboard. The speaker on this bad
boy tablit are like way loud. So you will be able to here it. now when you
got to go some where you can leave the stuff at home hook up the new blue
tooth keyboard that folds up and fits in your back pocket or get a case
for the tablit and get going where ever. You got the touch screen and
keyboard. It works good. Now gw micro here us again we want and we need
touch. Look at what the other guys are doing and for god sake do it even
beter.
Not saying the others are bad but I know gw micro can do better. I will
post some of my ideas on this subject later on.
-----Original Message-----
From: David Plumlee [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 9:21 PM
To: Chris H
Cc: gwmicro
Subject: Re: Window-eyes on a Microsoft Tablet
I must admit at the outset a bias on my part: I am a confirmed knob freak
at age 69. I have also operated the Apple IPhone with all of its gestures
and touch operations; and for my part, nothing beats a good solid
mechanical keyboard with real buttons that you can press to reliably get
what you want!
Perhaps touch screens will become more reliable as they improve; but I
don't think I'd want to use a tablet computer as long as I could have
something with real buttons to operate. Granted, the modern PC has no
knobs; but the buttons generally carry the same reliability that you can
get from knobs that you turn.
But for those who want touch, gestures, and all that, I sincerely hope
that Window-Eyes can someday soon run on such equipment. For my part,
though, give me knobs and buttons!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris H" <[email protected]>
To: "Kevin Huber" <[email protected]>; "gw-info"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: Window-eyes on a Microsoft Tablet
Hi
probably not, Window-Eyes does not work with touch currently.
Regards Chris
On 06/01/2014 19:58, Kevin Huber wrote:
Hi:
Can anyone tell me if Window-eyes 8 works on one of those Microsoft
Windows 8 tablets? If so, which tablets does Window-eyes work with
and which ones does it not work with?
Kevin Huber
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