Great explanation of the IOS touch screen.
Well, I just might have to save my money and buy an iPad Mini. lol.
Thanks much.
Many Blessings,
Pat Ferguson
"I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me." Phillippians 4:13.
At 11:19 AM 1/7/2014, you wrote:
Ok, I'll take a stab at explaining the difference between the touch
screen verses a screen reader based system. A screen reader and it
doesn't matter which one it is, work the same way. They read from
left to right and top to bottom. That's the simple explanation. Of
course there are short cuts to do certain things like pressing H for
headings or L for links etc. Helpful but not informative of what
the screen really looks like to a sighted person.
A sighted person will look at the screen and see there might be a
block of text under a picture on the top left corner of the
screen. There is very often something that says select from the
left side of the screen and place it in the right side section.
You can wave your mouse around etc but you still don't get to see
what a sighted person sees.
With a touch screen system such as on an iPhone because it's the
most widely used phone by the blind, your index finger becomes your
mouse pointer. There is one huge advantage here. You have feeling
in your index finger. Your brain tells you where your at on the
screen not the screen reader trying to describe it to you. So, as
you move your index finger around the screen, what ever is directly
under your index finger is described. If it's a block of text, that
text is read out loud to you by Voice over. There are buttons on
the screen at the top of the screen called status indicators. These
include signal strengths, WI-FI bars Bluetooth Status and remaining
battery power. There can be other status indicators there as
well. At the bottom edge are commonly used items such as phone,
email, Internet, or music. Between the top and bottom rows are the
apps or as we use to call them on the computer, programs.
This is just a generalized look but there is enough here to give you
an idea of the differences. As more and more people go from
desktops to laptops and from laptops to portables, sails of windows
based computers keeps falling farther and farther behind that of
portables. Touch Screens have been around on windows laptops for
more years then you might think. My Toshiba laptop had a touch
screen and I ran Window-Eyes on it. At that time though, it was
optional how you wanted to use the screen and not being able to see
the screen, I went with the screen reader and turned off the touch
screen features.
I'm looking for another computer to replace my old Netbook Computer
I used for email and web browsing. That will be replaced with an
iPad Air when my AT&T store gets their stock of Airs with a 128 GB
hard drive as well as WI-FI and cellular data. We enjoy traveling
in our motor home and you can't always get WI-FI and cellular data
is much easier to lay hands on.
The windows so called tablets have been more of a joke than a
serious contender.
Ok that's my take on things for what it's worth. And remember, it's
worth what you paid for it. "Nothing"
Regards,
Alan
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron or Susan Denis"
<[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: Window-eyes on a Microsoft Tablet
Would those of you enamored with touch screens explain the
advantage or attraction? I'm of course approaching this as one
with no vision. RD
-----Original Message----- From: Jim Grimsby JR.
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 4:43 AM
To: 'David Plumlee'
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Window-eyes on a Microsoft Tablet
Hay man I am so there. The cool thing is these bad boy have a usb
port on them. got my self a otg cable and now you just connect a
usb hub kick back and pound away on that old bad boy keyboard. The
speaker on this bad boy tablit are like way loud. So you will be
able to here it. now when you got to go some where you can leave
the stuff at home hook up the new blue tooth keyboard that folds up
and fits in your back pocket or get a case for the tablit and get
going where ever. You got the touch screen and keyboard. It works
good. Now gw micro here us again we want and we need touch. Look
at what the other guys are doing and for god sake do it even beter.
Not saying the others are bad but I know gw micro can do better. I
will post some of my ideas on this subject later on.
-----Original Message-----
From: David Plumlee [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 9:21 PM
To: Chris H
Cc: gwmicro
Subject: Re: Window-eyes on a Microsoft Tablet
I must admit at the outset a bias on my part: I am a confirmed
knob freak at age 69. I have also operated the Apple IPhone with
all of its gestures and touch operations; and for my part, nothing
beats a good solid mechanical keyboard with real buttons that you
can press to reliably get what you want!
Perhaps touch screens will become more reliable as they improve;
but I don't think I'd want to use a tablet computer as long as I
could have something with real buttons to operate. Granted, the
modern PC has no knobs; but the buttons generally carry the same
reliability that you can get from knobs that you turn.
But for those who want touch, gestures, and all that, I sincerely
hope that Window-Eyes can someday soon run on such equipment. For
my part, though, give me knobs and buttons!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris H" <[email protected]>
To: "Kevin Huber" <[email protected]>; "gw-info" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: Window-eyes on a Microsoft Tablet
Hi
probably not, Window-Eyes does not work with touch currently.
Regards Chris
On 06/01/2014 19:58, Kevin Huber wrote:
Hi:
Can anyone tell me if Window-eyes 8 works on one of those Microsoft
Windows 8 tablets? If so, which tablets does Window-eyes work with
and which ones does it not work with?
Kevin Huber
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