Yes it is sort of OT, but I think that it sort of relates since it is a code
that could end up as an option on senseNotes one day. It is difficult for
doing complex math, and I would not want it to replace Nemeth by any means,
but for basic writing of equations or of computer code I find it incredibly
helpful; I can write in contracted braille while taking notes in my computer
science classes, and then still do something like
for(i=0;i<n*3;i++){
That would be very hard in grade 2, and ueb lets things be translated better
when printing or emailing. If GWM does do this, that is one thing to be
careful of: printing! Currently, things like superscripts are not translated
(on the bn anyway) as superscript numbers, but rather as the word
superscript in parentheses and then the number.
Have a great day,
Alex
New email address: [email protected]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Freeman" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [GWN] more discoveries about the MSPQ
UEBC is an abomination for those into complex math. In fact, I have the
suspicion that it was primarily designed by math-phobics.
But this is OT for this list.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Hall" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [GWN] more discoveries about the MSPQ
Really? I like the code a lot more than grade 2; I can write in
contracted
braille, yet still have all my math and other symbols right there. It
also
cleans up some of the questions by getting rid of the dot 6 n and y
signs,
so you know if you see a dot 6 and a letter, even in a word, that letter
is
a capital. I also love the 3 capital signs meaning all caps until you
end
it, great for titles of papers or paragraph headings. Anyway, for what
it is
worth, I think it would be great to see on more notetakers.
Have a great day,
Alex
New email address: [email protected]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Freeman" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [GWN] more discoveries about the MSPQ
O Lord! I Hope not! (grin)
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Derek Czajka" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [GWN] more discoveries about the MSPQ
I wonder whether GW/Hims have considered the option of allowing the
use
of United English Braille (UEB). To be sure, UEB hasn't really caught
on
in this country, and as a reader of North American braille, there are
certainly things about it that I find somewhat clunky and annoying.
However, I think that for people who are looking for accurate machine
translation, which is one of the things UEB was built for, it could do
a
great deal of good, and it could be provided at least as an option to
Braille Sense users. I believe, since WE has the option of using it
already, that Duxbury has a working UEB translator available. Just a
matter to consider.
Mike Freeman wrote:
In Grade 2 mode, dot 4 generally preceeds an ASCII symbol that
doesn't
have a Grade 2 equivalent. Likewise, if you are writing in Grade 2
mode
and preceed an ASCII symbol with dot 4, you can generally prevent the
translator from translating the symbol. There are some exeptions,
however; I don't remember them at the moment.
In general, the anomalies are part of the Duxbury translator and are
not
the idiosyncracies of HIMS programmers.
I know Terri mentioned the double dots 4-5-6 symbol for the
undersccore
character. This is, in fact, proper Computer Braille Code (as opposed
to
the ASCII braille code which has some in common with the Computer
Braille Code but which has many subtle differences). Under some
circumstances, as, for example, in some file name translations,
Duxbury
uses Literary Braille italics symbols when, perhaps, it should use
ASCII
braille. But, with some sympathy to translation programmers, it's
hard
to formulate hard-and-fast rules that translation software should
use.
That's why human transcribers haven't been put out of business and
probably won't be for some time. (grin)
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Terri Pannett" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 11:20 AM
Subject: [GWN] more discoveries about the MSPQ
Hi, List!
I thought I would mention a few more discoveries I made. I would
assume
they are true for the bt model as well as the qt.
1. You cannot change a file from read-only compress to original and
edit it
without the file getting corrupted. I opened a file and turned on
read-only
compressed. As I was reading, I discovered some errors I needed to
correct.
I changed the file from read-only compressed to write original and
made
a
correction. To my dismay, the file became corrupted! I closed the
file
without saving, then I opened it again, made the necessary changes
and
the
file was fine.
2. Place markers are only preserved in SenseWord files.
3. The < > signs are translated as dot 4 dots 1,2,6 and dot 4 dots
3,4,5.
I like that!
4. The unit doesn't remind you when you are using one-handed mode.
If
you
are trying to write braille and you see nothing until you press the
space
bar, then you are in one-handed mode.
That's all for now.
Terri Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA.
