Hi, Sounds like it - but who knows... Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: Mike Freeman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 9:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GWN] New Member with a Question about "Save as..."
Is she writing the filename in computer braille? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "don bishop" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [GWN] New Member with a Question about "Save as..." > Ann, > > I'm also thinking somone may have deleted something. That's one reason I > suggest you contact gw directly. Since it has had a previous owner, it's > certainly a real possibility since it doesn't seem to be responding as it > should. > > Don > > > > On 7/4/2010 8:53 PM, Ann Edie wrote: >> The version is 5.22. Yes, I have tried pressing "tab" after the "save >> as" dialog box opens. That's when I get the clashing cymbals. I'm >> beginning to think that some settings or files are missing from my >> device, perhaps the previous teacher who had the device deleted >> something by accident. But I haven't yet delved into the subject of >> downloading stuff from my desktop computer to the Braille Sense, and I'm >> not sure that that would work if the files are messed up. >> >> Ann >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" >> <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 9:43 PM >> Subject: RE: [GWN] New Member with a Question about "Save as..." >> >> >>> Hi, >>> Uh oh... What firmware do you have? Does this happen with 5.5 or ones >>> older >>> than that? Have you tried pressing TAB after the Save As dialog >>> appears to >>> select a file type? >>> Cheers, >>> Joseph >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Ann Edie [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 7:07 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [GWN] New Member with a Question about "Save as..." >>> >>> Hi, Don, >>> >>> I am using a BrailleSense Plus. I can follow your steps through typing >>> the >>> name without extension, but when I press "tab" (F3), I get a sound like >>> clashing cymbals and the device ceases to respond. I reset and tried >>> again, >>> >>> with the same results. >>> >>> Ann >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "don bishop" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 9:00 PM >>> Subject: Re: [GWN] New Member with a Question about "Save as..." >>> >>> >>>> Ann, >>>> >>>> Just tried it here to be sure. >>>> Bring up the save as dialog box with space s. Give it a couple seconds >>>> for the current filename to appear. >>>> Next if you want a new filename start typing. The old one will >>>> disappear >>>> once you start typing. >>>> Once you have typed the filename, no extension needed, press the tab >>>> key >>>> (f3) and you should be in the file type box. The default file type will >>>> be shown. Press space until the file type you want shows or is spoken. >>>> >>>> Finally press the tab key one more time and you should be on a confirm >>>> button. Press enter there and your document will be saved in the format >>>> you choose. >>>> >>>> If this doesn't work as described, try a reset of the braillesense and >>>> then do it again. >>>> >>>> This should work with either the voice sense or braille sense. I can't >>>> recall which you said you are using. >>>> >>>> Don >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 7/4/2010 2:59 PM, Ann Edie wrote: >>>>> Well, I get the same result when I just type the file name as "test" >>>>> without any extension. Should I try typing it with "hbl"? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for all the thoughts and suggestions. >>>>> >>>>> Ann >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" >>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 4:57 PM >>>>> Subject: RE: [GWN] New Member with a Question about "Save as..." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> I see what the person is doing: Just because we type a file extension >>>>>> does >>>>>> not mean the operating system will accept it. In order for the file >>>>>> manager >>>>>> to correctly interpret file contents, a correct file type must be >>>>>> selected >>>>>> before it can be named or vice versa. Just typing the words >>>>>> "test.brf" >>>>>> will >>>>>> not help the operating system - in a sense, it would be named >>>>>> "test.brf.hbl" >>>>>> since HBL (Hansone-braille document) is the default file format. >>>>>> Remember >>>>>> how old viruses worked to get our attention: fooling around with an >>>>>> extension will not work. >>>>>> Just a thought. >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Joseph P.S. Welcome to the list... >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Joe Giovanelli [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 11:54 AM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: [GWN] New Member with a Question about "Save as..." >>>>>> >>>>>> Ann, >>>>>> >>>>>> Much of the way the BSP works is like Windows. The "save as" >>>>>> command is >>>>>> certainly like that. >>>>>> >>>>>> After completing a file, it must be named in order to save it. This >>>>>> is >>>>>> where the "save as" command comes in. I guess you already know how to >>>>>> bring >>>>>> that command up so I'll skip that. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> When you have the command on your display, give it a name, >>>>>> including its >>>>>> extension. If you wish the file to be stored in the default folder >>>>>> (My >>>>>> Documents), just press "enter. The file will be saved. Note that >>>>>> you do >>>>>> not use "tab." >>>>>> >>>>>> If you wish to use another folder other than the default, press the >>>>>> "shift-tab" that's space plus dots 2-3. This puts you in a list of >>>>>> folders >>>>>> which you can move you with the space plus dot 4 or dot 2. When you >>>>>> have >>>>>> selected the desired folder, press "enter." >>>>>> >>>>>> Now tab a couple of times. The first tab shows your filename plus >>>>>> extension. >>>>>> The next tab shows the file type. The next tab says "confirm." Press >>>>>> "enter" here and the file will be saved. >>>>>> >>>>>> Joe G. >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Ann Edie" <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: unknown <[email protected]> >>>>>> Date: Sunday, Jul 4, 2010 0:11:20 >>>>>> Subject: [GWN] New Member with a Question about "Save z..." >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, All, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have just taken possession of a BrailleSense Plus which was >>>>>>> purchased by >>>>>> a school district for the use of a student whom I will be seeing over >>>>>> the >>>>>> summer. I need to figure out the basic functions of the device so >>>>>> that I >>>>>> can teach the student how to use it in preparation for the next >>>>>> school >>>>>> year >>>>>> when he will be in the 6th grade. I am a BrailleNote user myself, but >>>>>> this >>>>>> is my first experience with the BrailleSense. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So far I do like the device, but I am having difficulty with the >>>>>>> "save >>>>>> z..." feature. I can find the item and get the prompt which asks me >>>>>> to >>>>>> name >>>>>> the file. When I type in the name I want the file to be called, I can >>>>>> see >>>>>> those characters on the braille display. If I were using my desktop >>>>>> computer with microsoft Word, after typing the file name, I would tab >>>>>> to the >>>>>> next prompt which would ask me for the file format. But what do I >>>>>> do at >>>>>> this point on the BrailleSense? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have tried pressing Space-dots 4, 5, which I think is the >>>>>>> equivalent of >>>>>> "tab", and I have tried pressing "Enter", but in both cases, the >>>>>> device >>>>>> seems to freeze, and doesn't respond to any commands, such as >>>>>> "Space-Z" or >>>>>> "Space-every." So I have resorted to the reset button, which of >>>>>> course >>>>>> causes the data in the file to be lost. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can anyone help me with the details of how to work through the "save >>>>>>> z..." >>>>>> routine, or point me to the spot in the manual where this is >>>>>> explained >>>>>> in >>>>>> detail? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you very much. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> Ann in NY >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, visit: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv >>>>>> >>>>>> If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, visit: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv >>>>>> >>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>>> Version: 8.5.439 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2981 - Release Date: >>>>>> 07/04/10 >>>>>> 06:35:00 >>>>>> >>>>>> If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, visit: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, visit: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> __________ NOD32 5251 (20100704) Information __________ >>>>> >>>>> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>>>> http://www.eset.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, visit: >>>> >>>> http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv >>>> >>>> >>> >>> If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, visit: >>> >>> http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.5.439 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2981 - Release Date: 07/04/10 >>> 18:35:00 >>> >>> If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, visit: >>> >>> http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv >>> >>> >> >> If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, visit: >> >> http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv >> >> >> __________ NOD32 5251 (20100704) Information __________ >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> > > If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, visit: > > http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv > If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, visit: http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv No virus found in this incoming message. 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