Hi again, I gave her my method of how I do things. Perhaps that may work!
Jim----- Original Message ----- From: "don bishop" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [GWN] New Member with a Question about "Save as..."
Jim,That might work. But just in case there's a problem and possibly other important files missing, seems like it would be a good idea to check in with gw first just to be sure she doesn't create more problems than she's solving. It really does sound as though an important system file might be missing. Hopefully it's the only one. But then again, it might not be a missing file issue.Hopefully she can get with gw tomorrow to try and see just what's going on.Don On 7/5/2010 9:15 AM, James Aldrich wrote:Don, I wonder whether this person could do an online upgrade with the unit? This could fix potential problems! Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "don bishop" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [GWN] New Member with a Question about "Save as..."Ann, I'm also thinking somone may have deleted something. That's one reason I suggest you contact gw directly. Since it has had a previous owner, it's certainly a real possibility since it doesn't seem to be responding as it should. Don On 7/4/2010 8:53 PM, Ann Edie wrote:The version is 5.22. Yes, I have tried pressing "tab" after the "save as" dialog box opens. That's when I get the clashing cymbals. I'm beginning to think that some settings or files are missing from my device, perhaps the previous teacher who had the device deleted something by accident. But I haven't yet delved into the subject ofdownloading stuff from my desktop computer to the Braille Sense, and I'mnot sure that that would work if the files are messed up. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 9:43 PM Subject: RE: [GWN] New Member with a Question about "Save as..."Hi, Uh oh... What firmware do you have? Does this happen with 5.5 or ones older than that? Have you tried pressing TAB after the Save As dialog appears to select a file type? Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: Ann Edie [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 7:07 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GWN] New Member with a Question about "Save as..." Hi, Don, I am using a BrailleSense Plus. I can follow your steps through typing thename without extension, but when I press "tab" (F3), I get a sound likeclashing cymbals and the device ceases to respond. I reset and tried again, with the same results. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "don bishop" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [GWN] New Member with a Question about "Save as..."Ann, Just tried it here to be sure.Bring up the save as dialog box with space s. Give it a couple secondsfor the current filename to appear. Next if you want a new filename start typing. The old one will disappear once you start typing. Once you have typed the filename, no extension needed, press the tab key (f3) and you should be in the file type box. The default file type willbe shown. Press space until the file type you want shows or is spoken.Finally press the tab key one more time and you should be on a confirmbutton. Press enter there and your document will be saved in the format you choose.If this doesn't work as described, try a reset of the braillesense andthen do it again.This should work with either the voice sense or braille sense. I can'trecall which you said you are using. Don On 7/4/2010 2:59 PM, Ann Edie wrote:Well, I get the same result when I just type the file name as "test" without any extension. Should I try typing it with "hbl"? Thanks for all the thoughts and suggestions. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 4:57 PM Subject: RE: [GWN] New Member with a Question about "Save as..."Hi, I see what the person is doing: Just because we type a file extension does not mean the operating system will accept it. In order for the file manager to correctly interpret file contents, a correct file type must be selected before it can be named or vice versa. Just typing the words "test.brf" will not help the operating system - in a sense, it would be named "test.brf.hbl" since HBL (Hansone-braille document) is the default file format. Remember how old viruses worked to get our attention: fooling around with an extension will not work. Just a thought. Cheers, Joseph P.S. Welcome to the list... -----Original Message----- From: Joe Giovanelli [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 11:54 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GWN] New Member with a Question about "Save as..." Ann, Much of the way the BSP works is like Windows. The "save as" command is certainly like that. After completing a file, it must be named in order to save it. This is where the "save as" command comes in. I guess you already know how to bring that command up so I'll skip that. When you have the command on your display, give it a name, including its extension. If you wish the file to be stored in the default folder (My Documents), just press "enter. The file will be saved. Note that you do not use "tab." If you wish to use another folder other than the default, press the "shift-tab" that's space plus dots 2-3. This puts you in a list of folders which you can move you with the space plus dot 4 or dot 2. When you have selected the desired folder, press "enter." Now tab a couple of times. The first tab shows your filename plus extension.The next tab shows the file type. The next tab says "confirm." Press"enter" here and the file will be saved. Joe G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Edie" <[email protected]> To: unknown <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, Jul 4, 2010 0:11:20 Subject: [GWN] New Member with a Question about "Save z..."Hi, All, I have just taken possession of a BrailleSense Plus which was purchased bya school district for the use of a student whom I will be seeing over the summer. I need to figure out the basic functions of the device so that I can teach the student how to use it in preparation for the next school year when he will be in the 6th grade. I am a BrailleNote user myself, but this is my first experience with the BrailleSense.So far I do like the device, but I am having difficulty with the "savez..." feature. I can find the item and get the prompt which asks me to name the file. When I type in the name I want the file to be called, I can see those characters on the braille display. If I were using my desktop computer with microsoft Word, after typing the file name, I would tab to the next prompt which would ask me for the file format. But what do I do at this point on the BrailleSense?I have tried pressing Space-dots 4, 5, which I think is the equivalent of"tab", and I have tried pressing "Enter", but in both cases, the device seems to freeze, and doesn't respond to any commands, such as "Space-Z" or "Space-every." So I have resorted to the reset button, which of course causes the data in the file to be lost.Can anyone help me with the details of how to work through the "save z..."routine, or point me to the spot in the manual where this is explained in detail?Thank you very much. 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