Hi, Just type braille not brf. See if that works. Colleen Roth
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Edie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Date: 2010/07/05 03:46:35 Subject: Re: [GWN] New Member with a Question about "Save z..." > > > Yes, I typed the letters that every so t, then dots 4-6, then brl or brf. If > I hit > ENTER THEN, I get the message that says "format not supported." If I hit > "tab", I get the clashing cymbals and the device locks up and I need to > press the reset button to get any response. > > I'm using version 5.22. I think the device was shipped to the school > district last September or so. The previous TVI TOOK IT HOME TO LEARN HOW > to operate it, and she never brought it back to school so that the student > could use it, or at least, that is what I have been told. > > Best, > Ann > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara J. Wagreich" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Cc: "Barbara J. Wagreich" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 10:21 PM > Subject: Re: [GWN] New Member with a Question about "Save z..." > > > > Dear Ann: > > > > I have a Braille Sense Plus still running version 5.21 (I haven't updated > > to the new firmware yet). What version of the firmware do you have on > > your BSP? There should be a file in the list of files in the file manager > > named bs-information.txt and it will give you the version number of the > > firmware on you our BSP. LET US KNOW. > > > > I went into the word processor and typed a line of text. Then I did > > CTRL-So and it prompted me for the filename. I typed test.brf and it was > > saved and placed in the My Documents folder. It contained a line of Grade > > 2 Braille. I went back into the word processor and typed a line of > > computer braille and gave the CTRL-So command and the filename testblea.brf > > and it was saved as such. > > > > It is important to use only computer braille when typing the name of a > > file plus extension, even if you have set VIEW GRADE TO Grade 2 Braille in > > that he Options menu. In other words, test.brf is an acceptable filename, > > but test4brf is not acceptable. > > > > I didn't have to us se the F3 for the extension. > > > > Have you tried to do it the way I ahve described above? > > > > Barb > > > > > > On Sun, 4 Jul 2010, Ann Edie wrote: > > > >ar Hi, Don, > >ar > >ar I am using a BrailleSense Plus. I can follow your steps through typing > >ar the name without extension, but when I press "tab" (F3), I get a sound > >ar like clashing cymbals and the device ceases to respond. I reset and > >ar tried again, with the same results. > >ar > >ar Ann > >ar > >ar ----- Original Message ----- From: "don bishop" <[email protected]> > >ar To: <[email protected]> > >ar Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 9:00 PM > >ar Subject: Re: [GWN] New Member with a Question about "Save z..." > >ar > >ar > >>> Ann, > >>> > >>> Just tried it here to be sure. > >>> Bring up the save as dialog box with space so. Give it a couple seconds > >>> for the current filename to appear. > >>> Next if you want a new filename start typing. The old one will > >>> disappear > >>> once you start typing. > >>> Once you have typed the filename, no extension needed, press the tab > >>> key > >>> (f3) and you should be in the file type box. The default file type > >>> will > >>> be shown. Press space until the file type you want shows or is spoken. > >>> > >>> Finally press the tab key one more time and you should be on a confirm > >>> button. Press enter there and your document will be saved in the > >>> format > >>> you choose. > >>> > >>> If this doesn't work as described, try a reset of the braillesense and > >>> then do it again. > >>> > >>> This should work with either the voice sense or braille sense. I can't > >>> recall which you said you are using. > >>> > >>> Don > >>> > >>> > >>> On 7/4/2010 2:59 PM, Ann Edie wrote: > >>> > Well, I get the same result when I just type the file name as "test" > >>> > without any extension. Should I try typing it with "hblind"? > >>> > > >>> > Thanks for all the thoughts and suggestions. > >>> > > >>> > Ann > >>> > > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" > >>> > <[email protected]> > >>> > To: <[email protected]> > >>> > Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 4:57 PM > >>> > Subject: RE: [GWN] New Member with a Question about "Save z..." > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Hi, > >>> > > I see what the person is doing: Just because we type a file > >>> > > extension > >>> > > does > >>> > > not mean the operating system will accept it. In order for the file > >>> > > manager > >>> > > to correctly interpret file contents, a correct file type must be > >>> > > selected > >>> > > before it can be named or vice versa. Just typing the words > >>> > > "test.brf" > >>> > > will > >>> > > not help the operating system - in a sense, it would be named > >>> > > "test.brf.hblind" > >>> > > since HBLIND (Hansone-braille document) is the default file format. > >>> > > Remember > >>> > > how old viruses worked to get our attention: fooling around with an > >>> > > extension will not work. > >>> > > Just a thought. > >>> > > Cheers, > >>> > > Joseph P.S. Welcome to the list... > >>> > > > >>> > > -----Original Message----- > >>> > > From: Joe Giovanelli [mailto:[email protected]] > >>> > > Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 11:54 AM > >>> > > To: [email protected] > >>> > > Subject: Re: [GWN] New Member with a Question about "Save z..." > >>> > > > >>> > > Ann, > >>> > > > >>> > > Much of the way the BSP WORKS IS LIKE Windows. The "save as" > >>> > > command is > >>> > > certainly like that. > >>> > > > >>> > > After completing a file, it must be named in order to save it. This > >>> > > is > >>> > > where the "save as" command comes in. I guess you already know how > >>> > > to > >>> > > bring > >>> > > that command up so I'll skip that. > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > When you have the command on your display, give it a name, > >>> > > including its > >>> > > extension. If you wish the file to be stored in the default folder > >>> > > (My > >>> > > Documents), just press "enter. The file will be saved. Note that > >>> > > you do > >>> > > not use "tab." > >>> > > > >>> > > If you wish to use another folder other than the default, press the > >>> > > "shift-tab" that's space plus dots 2-3. This puts you in a list of > >>> > > folders > >>> > > which you can move you with the space plus dot 4 or dot 2. When you > >>> > > have > >>> > > selected the desired folder, press "enter." > >>> > > > >>> > > Now tab a couple of times. The first tab shows your filename plus > >>> > > extension. > >>> > > The next tab shows the file type. The next tab says "confirm." > >>> > > Press > >>> > > "enter" here and the file will be saved. > >>> > > > >>> > > Joe G. > >>> > > > >>> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >>> > > From: "Ann Edie" <[email protected]> > >>> > > To: unknown <[email protected]> > >>> > > Date: Sunday, Jul 4, 2010 0:11:20 > >>> > > Subject: [GWN] New Member with a Question about "Save z..." > >>> > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Hi, All, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > I have just taken possession of a BrailleSense Plus which was > >>> > > > purchased by > >>> > > a school district for the use of a student whom I will be seeing > >>> > > over the > >>> > > summer. I need to figure out the basic functions of the device so > >>> > > that I > >>> > > can teach the student how to use it in preparation for the next > >>> > > school > >>> > > year > >>> > > when he will be in the 6th grade. I am a BrailleNote user myself, > >>> > > but > >>> > > this > >>> > > is my first experience with the BrailleSense. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > So far I do like the device, but I am having difficulty with the > >>> > > > "save > >>> > > z..." feature. I can find the item and get the prompt which asks me > >>> > > to > >>> > > name > >>> > > the file. When I type in the name I want the file to be called, I > >>> > > can see > >>> > > those characters on the braille display. If I were using my desktop > >>> > > computer with microsoft Word, after typing the file name, I would > >>> > > tab > >>> > > to the > >>> > > next prompt which would ask me for the file format. But what do I > >>> > > do at > >>> > > this point on the BrailleSense? > >>> > > > > >>> > > > I have tried pressing Space-dots 4, 5, which I think is the > >>> > > > equivalent of > >>> > > "tab", and I have tried pressing "Enter", but in both cases, the > >>> > > device > >>> > > seems to freeze, and doesn't respond to any commands, such as > >>> > > "Space-Z" or > >>> > > "Space-every." So I have resorted to the reset button, which of > >>> > > course > >>> > > causes the data in the file to be lost. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Can anyone help me with the details of how to work through the > >>> > > > "save > >>> > > > z..." > >>> > > routine, or point me to the spot in the manual where this is > >>> > > explained in > >>> > > detail? > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Thank you very much. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Best, > >>> > > > Ann in NY > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, visit: > >>> > > > > >>> > > > http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv > >>> > > > >>> > > If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, visit: > >>> > > > >>> > > http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv > >>> > > > >>> > > No virus found in this incoming message. > >>> > > Checked by AVG - WWW.AVG.COM > >>> > > Version: 8.5.439 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2981 - Release Date: > >>> > > 07/04/10 > >>> > > 06:35:00 > >>> > > > >>> > > If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, visit: > >>> > > > >>> > > http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, visit: > >>> > > >>> > http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > __________ NOD32 5251 (20100704) Information __________ > >>> > > >>> > This message was checked by NOD32 ANTIVIRUS SYSTEM. > >>> > http://www.eset.com > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, visit: > >>> > >>> http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv > >>> > >>> > >ar > >ar If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, visit: > >ar > >ar http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv > >ar > >ar > >ar > > > > If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, visit: > > > > http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv > > > > > > If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, visit: > > http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, visit: http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv
