Sorry, the source makes it obvious that they know knit from crochet.. and that they make it clear that they are talking about two different techniques. This is the NESAT (Northern European Society of Archaeological Textiles). This is a peer reviewed scholarly journal... they are extremely well versed in textiles.

There is quite possibly a translation problem as English is not the author's native language. The question lies in the terms "crochet" and "needle", after all, knitting "needles" don't have holes in them either! The possibility exists that the term "needle" as used here, may have been used instead of the American English "crochet hook". Yes, naalbinding was sometimes confused with either knit or crochet in museums in the early years of archaeology and I brought up the possibility in my post. Now if the author had specified that the needle had an hole, the question would not have been raised and I would assumed that naalbinding was intended. The textile produced is the final arbiter, but the Baltic States (Latvia, etc) is just a bit far for me to personally examine the textiles (assuming that I could even gain access).

The intent of my question was to determine the correct two different techniques mentioned in the article. Sorry that I was too esoteric. The h-cost community is extremely diverse and knowledgeable and I was hoping someone might have seen something that I haven't. I will ILL the two references.

"Crochet" is generally considered a 19th century technique, but I have not found anything creditable on it's early evolution... just speculation.

It is possible to go from sheep to "crocheted" textile using only a spindle and whorl by plucking a staple ("rooing"), spinning with a drop spindle, removing the whorl and "crocheting" with the spindle. Not that that I know that this was done in early period in any country, but it IS possible. It is also impossible to detect a difference between a spindle with a notch (without whorl) and a "crochet hook".

Thanks to everyone who commented on the question.

Beth Matney


At 03:14 PM 11/9/2005, you wrote:
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 10:10:29 -0800
From: Carolyn Kayta Barrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [h-cost] early Knitting and crochet


>were crochetted with a small bone needle."

Crochet cannot be done with any kind of needle.  Sorry, but your source
must have been written by someone who doesn't know knit from crochet.


        CarolynKayta Barrows
dollmaker, fibre artist, textillian

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