Message: 9
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:35:18 -0500
From: Robin Netherton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Partlets
To: Historical Costume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Cynthia Virtue wrote:
Are you treating the transparent kerchiefs at the neck of the circa-1400
era as something not-a-partlet-ancestor?
They're not relevant in this case. My concern is actually collars in the
late 14th c. (actually I'm analyzing a particular narrative passage that
mentions a collar, so I'm talking about what the collar might have
looked like). In discussing possibilities, I mention partlets as collars
made as separate garments, as opposed to the types of collars that are
attached to, or part of, a garment. It's not the main point of my paper,
but I need to be able to acknowledge that such a thing does show up at
some point past the period I'm focusing on.
The scarves that go over the shoulders might well be ancestors to the
partlet, but they don't have collars, so mercifully I don't have to talk
about them. If I were focusing on partlet development, I would.
All this just so I can say the equivalent of "and a while later you see
this thing called a partlet ..." But vagueness is so unprofessional.
I think around 1525 is a safe bet for partlet as collar - see the
rudimentary
collared partlet on a couple of the Holbein sketches of Thomas More's
family.
For partlet as outerware, not partlet as shirt, they first seem to appear as
those
black things filling in the square neckline of late 15th century gowns, but
again
the collars don't appear to the 1520s or so.
Might the collar in question be a necklace?
Claire/Angharad
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