Exstock wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Saragrace Knauf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <snip> >> Now I gotta get my hands on a good copy of the "Deposition .." >> by Gerard David.....Curious about the no waist seam... > > Which version? There's a nice zoomable hi-res version of the 1484 > Deposition (renamed Lamentation to avoid confusion, apparently, but called > Deposition in many books) online at: > http://snipurl.com/266hs [www_nationalgallery_org_uk]
That's the one! I didn't find it in my own image search (because I was looking under both Deposition and Descent From the Cross, but not Lamentation), though I actually spent a lot more time going through a dozen or so books on Flemish 15th c. painting (including two National Gallery catalogs!) and found only one poor image -- and I looked at every David I had in case it was retitled in those. (E., where did you get 1484? The website says 1515-23.) Those high-res museum scans are great. Zooming in on the woman in light blue at the lower left, you can see the "corner" at the armhole very well. If you look close you'll also see a side seam on the body under the arm. I think -- am not sure -- that there may be diagonal lacings on that. I suspect there's a waist seam hidden in that fold at the waist, despite Houston saying there's none. The side seam does not continue down the skirt, and if the dress were cut in one, it would. At 1515 (or even 1484), waist seams would be quite likely anyway, though not exclusively the case. The lady in red in the back right does not have a waist seam, but also may be deliberately done in "old" style, given the subject matter. Magdalen (in green) is too dark for me to make out any seams below the shoulder. No clue how the sleeve itself is shaped but I truly doubt Houston's diagram; it wouldn't want to bend in three dimensions and still leave room for an arm. Where to put the curves is another matter. I would probably start with some flexible wool and shape it over a suitable body to find out. Not high on my priority list at the moment, though. --Robin _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list [email protected] http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
