If you look at the back left side of the dress (her left) you can see that the material appears to extend upwards at an angle. I would surmise that this is a train to the dress, brought forward to show it off for the portrait. Sharon C.
-----Original Message----- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Claire Clarke Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:33 AM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] More black ruffs? Message: 1 Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 12:08:06 -0800 (PST) From: mlysett <mlys...@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [h-cost] More black ruffs? To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Message-ID: <189357.56892...@web53102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I just happened to borrow Strong's English Icon, so I thumbed through it looking for black ruffs. There aren't any all-black ruffs, but there are a few edged in black and a few more that are heavily embroidered with blackwork. I could only find three online: http://www.elizabethan-portraits.com/ThomasHoward1.jpg http://www.elizabethan-portraits.com/FrancisSidney.jpg http://www.uvm.edu/~hag/sca/tudor/blackmary.jpg If you'd like more pictures, email me privately and I'll see if I can get them scanned. Margaret Roe Any call on what the thingy on the floor by the feet of Francis Sidney is? It almost looks like a shield, except it is covered in the same fabric as her gown and kirtle, And lined with fur. Claire _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume