Shelly and her brilliant intern get the virtual chocolate! I had a feeling that if the clue existed, it would be in Gay, but I didn't think to try looking it up online. Gay indeed had the detailed original story of the children sent to mock the women in the high hats. And it's dated to 1428. Hennin doesn't appear elsewhere in this copious reference, and if it had been picked up as a hat term, it would have shown up in its own right. With my imperfect French, I discern that the hats themselves have various names in the passage -- atours, cornes -- but "au hennin" was indeed the cry of the children sent by the preacher. (The surrounding references have even more hat terms from this period, and more hints of their style and decoration; I'm sure each version had its own name.)

And as the preacher is cited as being from Bretagne, and the events as occurring in Flanders and nearby regions, Audrey's connection of the French "hennin" as originating with the Netherlandish "rooster" may well apply here. When "hennin" began being used straight-facedly as a hat term would be a worthy question to pursue ... for someone else, not me, though this is the kind of thing I find particularly interesting.

I learned something new today -- several things, one of which is that Gay is searchable online, and I don't need to make a trip to the university library to check it. Wahoo.

--Robin

Nordtorp-Madson, Michelle A. wrote:
Robin:  My brilliant, and by-lingual intern showed me how to access Gay 
on-line.  Hennin was easily found, along with a source citation.

http://books.google.fr/books?id=xKcTAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=victor+gay+glossaire+archéologique+du+moyen+age+et+du+renaissance&source=bl&ots=STwKCgNsEV&sig=nYh6dJbB7L_oHdB5vBNCHmlkTNA&hl=fr&ei=ciZXS8LyEYHkNbqXgNQE&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Hennin&f=false

It was under hair/coiffure  things.


On 1/20/10 9:40 AM, "Robin Netherton" <[email protected]> wrote:

_Glossaire
archéologique du moyen age et de la renaissance
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