Which century are you researching?? I think you can perhaps start?with
wikipedia if you don't have Waugh, yet. The spoon busk was quite before the
19th C. so it wouldn't be considered for the Victorian period anyway.? If you
mean to be historical, I think the "wheel" has already been invented for the
common man (woman).
Kathleen, who has been there already
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Subject: Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questionsFirst, that book is
one of the top ones on my wish list! Perhaps I can scavenge the money for it
bow that I've a specific reason!
While I'm aiming for Victorian, the style and shape will be geared more towards
the "average customer" who really wouldn't care if it was early or late
victorian. It's the hourglass shape, cinching in the waist, while providing
support and lift and perhaps some cleavage (which would rarely been shown or
desired to my knowledge in the days the style would be worn!)
But even though I'm aiming for a general "dumb" wearer, I want to have the
historical aspect influencing the corset. I hope I'm not contradicting myself!
Dare I say that my vision is a corset that, with the use of different sized
gores, be sewn to fit a wide range of sizes and be historical accurate enough
for re-enactors to wear, but suitable for any woman to wear in place of a bra?
Does that help any?
I do know that I plan on using a straight busk not a spoon, so if my memory
serves right, that puts me in the earlier eras... But you mentioned that gores
didn't fully show up till the later eras... Is it possible to breed the two
together and still work? Thus the research!
Michael Deibert
OAS AAS LLS
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On Mar 24, 2011, at 6:45, Carol Kocian <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> What era are you aiming for? Victoria was around for a long time and the
> "ideal" shape changed through those decades. Gores first show up in the
> softer corsets of the early 19thC. Having the right shape of the corset makes
> a difference in the finished look of the outfit.
>
> My favorite book to start is Corsets & Crinolines by Norah Waugh. The pattern
> drafts are taken from extant corsets, and it's easy to see how the
> construction and shapes of the pieces affect the resulting shape of the body.
>
> -Carol
>
>
> On Mar 24, 2011, at 5:15 AM, Michael Deibert wrote:
>
>> Good morning everyone!
>>
>> I'm doing some research into corsets, and thought it best to start on here
>> where many of you already have research. While I know a lot regarding
>> corsets, I have two main focuses.
>>
>> The first is regarding corset patterns. I am hoping to develop a corset
>> pattern and thus would like to be able to have as many corset patterns to
>> base it off of as I can. While any corset pattern works, I am specifically
>> hoping to find Victorian era corset patterns with hip and/or bust gores.
>>> From the many companies out there currently selling commercial pattersn,
>> there are few who focus on corsets with gores. I am looking at trying to
>> simplify the process of grading for different sizes, and believe that there
>> might be a way to accomplish this with gored patterns. So if any of you have
>> or know of patterns that I can get, please direct me in that direction!
>> (Remember copyright laws and direct me to where I can find things, rather
>> than just copy and paste.)
>>
>> Second, the little research I've done so far indicates that during the
>> Victorian eras, there were many corset patterns that used gores - yet many
>> of the current commercial patterns focus on those without. Is there a reason
>> for this that anyone might be aware of? Is it easier to fit without gores?
>> Are gored patterns more difficult to make up? Any help in this direction is
>> also a huge plus!
>>
>> Please don't shy away, the more I can accumulate, the better my final
>> pattern shall be once it is ready! Thanks in advance!
>>
>> Michael Deibert
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