Bingo. That's the thing. The input from 'major players' really won't be any different to the average Joe. The point though, is to understand that by engaging with more prominent bloggers, the direction given is based on a good deal of experience.
The Gruber's and Storey's of this world all started out as the average Joe does. But by getting where they have, they have a great deal of knowledge that is extremely beneficial. So from a functional point of view (will try and be brief this time!) whilst the input should be considered no different to joe schmo here, it's an great opportunity to engage in a way that has a positive outcome. The thing is, a lot of people often panic when talk inevitably centres around "what happens when someone prominent arrives", assuming that that means any project has to bow to their wishes - or there might be some form of bias. I'd suggest looking at it a different way. It's opportunity. Opportunity to not only put Habari's best foot forward, but to also gain the invaluable knowledge transfer that happens when suggestions and recommendations are returned. So, a little bit of extra focus ensuring such folks are at least heard, will give Habari a massive degree of future benefit. That doesn't require bias. Just a preparedness to listen. Again, any changes suggested by those we look up to, are really no different to myself putting some ideas on the table. But you can take them as having been road-tested and proved. One doesn't need to be biased to realise that. That is an extremely valuable thing. I think the fear that Habari would be in some way tarnished or affected fundimentally by simply listening to input from smart bloggers who have a massive footprint is, perhaps, based on a little bit of misplaced fear. We all seem to flock to various meets and conferences to hear from the very same people - why then be concerned that that suddenly is a bad thing for something like Habari? Heh, thanks for the welcome and, again, sorry for the length. Best, Brendan. On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Ali B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First a foremost, a hearty welcome to Habari Brendan :) > > Targeting major industry players (industry as in blogging) should be the > primary goal, for the reason mentioned i > > On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Brendan Borlase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> Oh, and one last thing. You don't have to "target" anyone persay. >> >> You don't even have to change a single line of code, or the direction. > > Approaching major industry players (industry as in blogging) is obviously, > the way that would most impact promoting Habari as a tool. There're no > reason over the ones that you put. However, if we want to expect a switch, > we will have to listen to feedback, possibly add things accordingly. Mind > you, this is no different from responding to other users feedback. Major > feature or even change suggestions will be passed to the community as ever, > before actually being implemented. This is no different from users > suggestion, except for the significance of their impact in promoting Habari. > > My point is, breifly, that our response to change or addition suggestions > should not be biased. We should respond these suggestions from the "elite > blogger" exactly like we do to the ones from the "avarage bloggers". As Owen > pointed out, there is indeed nothing that A-list bloggers need that we don't > want to provide for the avarage bloggers. > >> This is about engaging people with passion. They tend to be the folks >> that have built a big readership and have a great deal of influence. > > There's the key. Up there :) > >> >> Best, >> >> Brendan. >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 12:30 PM, shep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > I always saw habari as a grass roots kind of thing. start with >> > passionate users and spread the word that way and not targeting >> > celebrity endorsements. *shrugs* >> > >> > On Aug 30, 4:58 pm, Owen Winkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> shep wrote: >> >> > actually, it does have something to do with it, because as the >> >> > previous posts were discussing, habari doesn't have the wow factor to >> >> > grab the average blogger. which is where you started talking about >> >> > the elite bloggers and how we need to target them, which i disagree >> >> > with. we need the wow factor for the average blogger, and until we >> >> > add things for the average blogger to target them (better theme >> >> > support, updated importers, modules/widgets/whatever, more themes and >> >> > plugins) we won't get them. >> >> >> >> We're certainly not changing Habari to target one group or another with >> >> features; However, we are targeting our marketing effort most >> >> effectively by spending the least effort to reach the most users. >> >> >> >> We would unquestionably spend our marketing efforts better by >> >> approaching bloggers having larger audiences than approaching an >> >> equivalent audience-worth of average bloggers. >> >> >> >> Those A-list bloggers, by virtue of talking about or using Habari, >> >> would >> >> then extend our reach to a larger number of average bloggers than we >> >> could ever reach on our own. I believe that is the logic in >> >> approaching >> >> the "elite" blogger. >> >> >> >> If there is a different way to reach an equivalent number of average >> >> joe >> >> bloggers directly, I'd like to know what that is. >> >> >> >> If anyone means to suggest that we change Habari features to cater to >> >> an >> >> elite blogging crowd, please say so now, since I would take issue with >> >> the idea that A-list bloggers would want or need anything different >> >> from >> >> blog software than what we should provide to the average blogger. I am >> >> pretty sure that no one is suggesting this though. >> >> >> >> Owen >> > > >> > >> >> > > > > -- > Ali B / dmondark > http://www.awhitebox.com > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/habari-dev -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
