Even if you do not make money off it, the venture is most likely commercial.
You will be paying for hosting and some degree of support. Additionally, you will be collecting user info and maintaining the system for them. That is to say, while it may be free as in beer it is not free as in speech. Any situation where there is an "administrator" is not free as in speech and is not open source. Once again, I do think this is a good thing to have and will benefit Habari the Project. However, I do not think Habari the Community/PMC should explicitly work on a non-open source Habari. Fantastico support is a great idea and is something which we should work towards as a community. This is because we can maintain the ideals of open source (users can still edit their installations) while also extending our reach. On Nov 11, 2008, at 5:31 PM, Andy C wrote: > > Benjamin > > Hosted Habari blogs are a good idea. Trying to encourage more people > to try Habari is a good idea. > > If you want to offer Habari blogs on your hosting to friends, > colleagues or people who express an interest in Habari but can't be > bothered installing it then by all means go ahead. > > Don't worry - I knew you were not proposing a commercial, money-making > venture. The clue was right there in your original post where you > said: > > 'I'd like to propose an attempt to start a hosting service for free > content hosting using Habari.' > > I agree it's maybe a little premature right now. In the future, an > excellent way to reach out to the masses would be to build Fantastico/ > SimpleScripts Habari installation scripts and start approaching > hosting companies to bundle Habari with their packaged applications > (WP, Drupal, Joomla). However, this would need to wait until Habari > 1.0 when the schema/API/plugins are more stable. > > Keep the faith and don't let them grind you down. > -- > Andy > > On Nov 11, 10:08 pm, Benjamin Hutchins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Thanks for all the input. I agree in that Habari isn't far enough in >> development for this but some planning might be a nice idea. >> >> Though, not sure how anyone started to think this was a commercial >> idea. >> Not sure how any profit exists in free blog hosting where you don't >> enforce ads. And no one in their right mind would force ads because >> it >> would kill Habari. Though, somehow paying for a server might be a >> good >> thing to consider. >> >> This should be separate from the development, that makes logical >> sense. >> This thread should drop off the radar then. For now, until a better >> situation is setup, email me directly if you're interested in helping >> with this project (ben[dot]hutchins[at]xvolter[dot]com). If enough >> people are interested in the idea then we will peruse it, if not >> then it >> can be dropped until a later date. >> >> On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 21:46 +0000, Caius Durling wrote: >> >>> On 11 Nov 2008, at 21:38, Arthus Erea wrote: >> >>>> However, I don't think that planning should be done on this list, >>>> or >>>> on any Habari community property. >> >>>> Good luck, but please keep commercial ventures separate. >> >>> Hear hear. This is what I was trying to say but I fear I rambled >>> slightly :) >> >>> C >>> --- >>> Caius Durling >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> +44 (0) 7960 268 100 >>> http://caius.name/ > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/habari-dev -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
