In my opinion, the Habari community and project should not be working on hosted Habari. Any hosted or commercial versions of Habari should strictly be kept seperate from Habari resources.
That being said, I do thing someone should do this. Our liberal ASL license allows this sort of commercial venture, and I think it would be a very valuable service. In fact, I have occasionally thought about doing so myself. I encourage people to think about it and possibly start it – hopefully our biggest contributors can even make a little profit. However, I just want to reiterate the efforts should be kept separate. In a large part, I believe Habari (the Project) creating and being involved in Habari (the Business) can contaminate and tamper with Habari (the Community). From a technical standpoint, I think we still have things to do before true multiblog functionality can be supported. Though you can already run multiple blogs off the same codebase, there isn't yet the ability to share users between databases, which definitely helps with administration. On Nov 11, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Chris Meller wrote: > I've actually put a lot of thought into this, particularly as we > recently moved servers and it got me to thinking about the > administration and scaling side of this kind of massive setup. > > I would love to see a hosted Habari offering, but I'm not sure we're > ready for that yet. There's still so much day-to-day flux in the SVN > codebase and so much outdated / non-working stuff in the latest 0.5 > release, that I think maintaining any kind of large hosted system > would be too complex and time-consuming currently. > > Add to that a lack of themes, which should hopefully start to become > less of an issue after we address some themeing concurns in 0.7, and > a "rough" multi-site capability (to say the least) and it seems like > we're a little too early entering the game on all sides. > > Personally, I think we would only be able to offer a poor showing if > we were to pursue something like this at present. I would rather > wait a few more versions (or possibly for a 1.0) and really knock > peoples socks off then than toss out a ho-hum service now. > > If anyone has other ideas or opinions, please chime in... > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Benjamin Hutchins > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As many people know Wordpress has their Wordpress.com service where > you can get a free blog hosted via their free service. Where is > Habari.com (this domain is registered, it is a figure of speech)? > > I'd like to propose an attempt to start a hosting service for free > content hosting using Habari. The restrictions may have to be talked > about, so we can do so here, but I myself would be willing to host > these users. I currently have multiple servers I pay an overpriced > hosting bill for to have them hosted at my local datacenter. I have > enough resources to maintain hosting for multiple hundreds of Habari's > until I would have to even consider getting an upgrade. > > Managing all these users would be my problem though. When Habari > updates come around I would easily create a script to go in and modify > all the files and what not, but that may prove to be an issue with > custom modifications. Though I can of coarse not permit FTP/SSH access > to the blog files which would simplify this. Maybe access to the user > directory only, where they can modify plugins, themes, custom classes, > and files on their own. Meaning all System files could be replaced. > > Support would become an issue to, I would need help from the Habari > Community to give these users support. From common questions to > debugging their mess ups users would be emailing support. > > Costs might become a problem if we as a community decide to host > somewhere else for this service. As I mentioned I could host this but > that is only one suggestion, we would do things in many ways. I am new > the community but am trying to get myself involved, however there are > users who have been here for years who might think it better not to > start a service with someone who hasn't been around long, completely > understandable. > > In any case, I think a service such as this would increase the number > of Habari users quickly. Please vote if you would think this is an > idea we should talk more about or drop it now and potentially bring it > up at a later date. > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/habari-dev -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
