Fair enough, Owen.

Thanks for taking the time for posting such a detailed reply.

On Nov 27, 5:38 pm, Owen Winkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andy C wrote:
> > OK. While I have no doubt that a clever Habari developer will identify
> > the root cause in due course and fix it, it does seem a little
> > perverse that Tag support has been moved from core to a plugin.
>
> Tag support hasn't been removed.  It's still there.  There is a field to
> enter tags just like there has always been, tag data is retained, and
> tag output hasn't changed at all.
>
> > Firstly, unless it's included as a core plugin OOTB (which rather
> > defeats the object), I think this omission gives a poor impression to
> > a brand new user evaluating Habari: 'What - you mean I have to
> > [optionally download - even worse] activate a plugin just to use a
> > core, standard OOTB blogging feature ?'
>
> A brand new user isn't going to know that this feature is absent,
> because they will never have seen it.
>
> > Also, I would have expected people affected by this particular problem
> > (those with a significant number of tags) presumably will still want
> > to use tags and hence will use the plugin and be back precisely where
> > they started.
>
> The trick is that the usability of the tag drawer diminishes in
> proportion to the performance.  The more tags that are in the drawer,
> the slower it goes, and the harder it is to use.
>
> Anything that improves the performance of the drawer would necessarily
> change its functionality to not display all of the tags, which is
> exactly why people who want that functionality want it.
>
> I think it will be responsible to replace this functionality in core
> with something that is less resource intensive, but provides similar
> utility, such as the mentioned autocomplete.
>
> But for the time being, between releases mind you, removing the drawer
> allows the publish page to perform at a reasonable level, and gets
> people to start thinking more about a real answer.  It also provides the
> opportunity for people interested in revising the existing functionality
> to do so in via the plugin in the -extras repository.
>
> Also keep in mind that the tag system will be changing soon.  We'll be
> implementing taxonomy.  The data structures are in place already.  We'll
> need a different interface to interact with that data.
>
> Owen
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