I think those are poor examples to prove your point. For one, those  
are both products of the respective companies. I'm not sure we want to  
be the product of Apache.

Microsoft Excel is inextricably tied to Microsoft. Sentiments towards  
Microsoft affect sentiments towards Excel.

I'm not sure we want to take on the liability of sentiments towards  
Apache negatively affecting us.

On Apr 15, 2009, at 9:34 PM, Rich Bowen wrote:

> So, sure, officially, it would be "Apache Habari", much like  
> "Microsoft Excel" or "Adobe Acrobat", but everyone will continue to  
> refer to the product however they choose to, and it's really not a  
> big deal. Seems a very minor thing to get uptight about.


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