So now that you know the answers, what would you say they are? On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:07 PM, s.ross <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, the marketing from the lesscss site reads like this: > Less uses existing css syntax. This means you can migrate your current .css > files to .less in seconds and there is virtually no leaning curve. > > How many people know that beside the out-of-the-box, > it-just-works-with-your-framework Haml/Sass there is also this keen tool > called css2sass? Y'know, migrate your current .css files to .sass in seconds > and there is virtually no learning curve? > > Nathan/Hampton, no offense intended, but from the very first days of Haml, > the Web site has been extremely cool, but also somewhat opaque with respect > the the top-level benefits offered. People with short attention spans (140 > characters or fewer) just don't read past the Haml-Haiku stuff. I'm a sucky > designer too, but an ok writer. The first three paragraphs of the lesscss > Web site answer the question "why should I care and how will it make my > daily life easier?" > > I know the answer to these questions about Haml and Sass, but new people > flow into the community and it would be great to have a simple executive > summary for them. Even if it dumbs down the intent and power of the tools, > it will get people interested. > > Steve > > > On Jun 17, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Chris Eppstein wrote: > > Thanks. > Every time I look at a new programming language there's something I HATE > about it. For C it was the need to have a semi-colon at the end of every > line, for java it was the straight jacket they placed on me, for python it > was the whitespace active syntax, for ruby it was the incredibly verbose > begin/end. I got over all of it in a matter of hours or > days. Except the java straight jacket -- seriously that blew. But that > initial reaction can completely change the adoption rate which is why the > more innovative technologies take longer to reach mainstream adoption, > usually 5-6 years. Sass is only 2 years old -- just an adolescent technology > really. Folks that dismissed sass a year ago are taking a second look > recently and deciding it's worth using now. > > Even if Sass ends up being a "second place" technology like prototype to > jquery, I still will be proud of it, because we're breaking ground and > changing the way people think about design and and the maintainability of > websites. > > The biggest hurdle that any new style syntax has is the need to compile it. > To that end, making Sass embed-able within a web browser and fast enough > that users don't notice it, will be a radical step towards mainstream > adoption. This means having all kinds of boring things like W3C proposals, a > published grammar, a C-based parser, and a spec suite to validate alternate > implementations of sass as compliant, etc. > > Chris > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:20 AM, s.ross <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> On Jun 17, 2009, at 11:15 AM, Noel wrote: >> >> > >> > I think that part of the reason that less got so much attention has to >> > do with marketing. By that I mean they really have a nice site and it >> > is very easy to compare and contrast CSS with LessCss. >> >> Also a little Twitter love. You're right. It's hard to overstate how >> much marketing a technology does for it. Look at "Prototype is bad, >> jQuery is good." I just have to think some of that has to do with the >> community uptake of jQuery and how easy it is to find your way around >> their site and grab plugins. >> >> Kudos to Nathan and Hampton for the great ideas and to Chris for >> showing the world how insanely cool Sass can be in application. This >> is not to neglect everyone else who's contributed to the project. >> >> >> > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Haml" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/haml?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
