On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Ivan Garcia <capiscuas at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Tom,
>
> great job you guys with Hanoi and Sapa (maybe more others too). One of the
> requisites to apply for the donated GPS from OSM is to have a user account
> that has edited many times in OSM, I guess that you guys, have one, would
> you mind to apply for it and donate to HCMC group?
>

I have just done so. Fingers crossed.

Incidentally, I took a look at the osm Saigon map and there's been a
lot of progress already since I last visited. So much so that I've
switched newhanoian's sister site, http://so-saigon.xemzi.com to use
openstreetmap tiles, too.

If we get a free GPS we'd be very happy to pass it on to someone who
pledged to put some work into the Saigon map.

> I'm not currently in Vietnam but  I know the HCMC community very well and I
> also the person most interested to do this kind of job of tracking with the
> GPS to be uploaded later to OSM.

Do you mean you know the person, or you are the person?

Regards,

Tom

>
> Best Regards.
> Ivan Garcia.
>
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 4:46 AM, Tom Lancaster <tom at grubbyconsulting.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Ivan Garcia <capiscuas at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi everybody, for those that still doesn't know about
>> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/ (OSM) I would explain it as a Wikipedia of
>> > Maps, a collaboritve project started only 4 years ago and with a huge
>> > community and volunteers geolocating until cover the last corner of the
>> > world.
>> >
>> > In vietnam OSM it doesn't cover too much, Hanoi is the city most
>> > geolocalized. IMHO this project very important because nowadays GIS
>> > services
>> > are growing up and it helps the IT sector in Vietnam to create their own
>> > GIS
>> > sites and programs without having to pay license oversea to Microsoft
>> > VE,
>> > Google Maps,etc
>> >
>> > An example of a vietnamese case is this site:
>> > http://newhanoian.xemzi.com/venue/category/28/NGOs-Charities#1/28 ,
>> > allowing
>> > you to search and localize Services in Hanoi.
>>
>> Hey, that's my site!
>>
>> I think I should explain why we decided to use OSM as it's relevant to
>> this list. For a couple of years we had been using the google
>> satellite map with our own hand-drawn layers showing streets and
>> street names. We thought it would only be a matter of time before
>> Google published a great map of Hanoi. What happened instead was that
>> Google has an unfinished map of Hanoi and, I'm guessing because the
>> Hanoi market is not important enough, they decided to enlist "the
>> community " to finish it for them. That, for us, was the last straw -
>> a giant corporation asking the public to contribute their labor to
>> building Google's Intellectual Property stash. Any effort that we
>> would have put into completing the Gmap would have belonged to Google.
>> By contrast OSM belongs to everyone, being licensed according to a
>> Creative Commons license.
>>
>> Since we decided to use OSM we've invested a lot of time in bringing
>> the Hanoi map up to a usable standard, by adding street names and
>> streets (using the satellite view in the OSM editor) and by riding
>> around Hanoi with GPS devices making traces that we used to add new
>> ways (streets).
>>
>> We have GPS data on Sapa which we will convert to OSM soon, too.
>>
>> The missing "elephant in the room" is the Saigon map. Being based in
>> Hanoi it's difficult for us to work on this, so I encourage anyone who
>> spends time there to work on it, for the benefit of everyone.
>>
>> I just launched a new feature, btw, which allows you to search by
>> location - you can search near to pre-defined points, or define your
>> own search points (like "my house," "my office," etc.). You can see it
>> at http://newhanoian.xemzi.com/entity/advanced_search
>>
>> Our database is far from complete, but anyone can add to it if they
>> find missing places, at http://newhanoian.xemzi.com/venue/add
>>
>> Yes, any data you enter will belong to us, but you will always be
>> credited for entering it, and you will gain influence in the new
>> hanoian community by entering stuff.
>>
>> >
>> > Anyway, the reason of this email is to encourage the people that has
>> > already
>> > participated editing the Maps of OSM to get a free GPS device from them.
>> > Is very easy, just go to this site and apply.
>> > http://foundation.openstreetmap.org/gpstogo/
>>
>> Interesting, thanks Ivan.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tom
>> >
>> > Best Regards to everybody and keep geolocating :-)
>> >
>> > Ivan Garcia
>> >
>> >
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