The very same argument was used against Mumps --- before GT.M (and others). But one could run 12 Terminals from one 486 PC using DataTree...
Wolfgang Giere "Nancy E. Anthracite" wrote: > I had a discussion recently with a copmuter professional about the merits of > various languages. Python was mentioned as one that has serious speed > problems when used on a large scale. > > On Saturday 27 November 2004 08:15 pm, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: > > Python is a superb choice to enhance and coexist with VistA and M... to > > add to Tom's points one of its greatest strengths that programmers find > > they are vastly more productive in Python than Java....there are several > > comparisons of Python vs. Java on the net. > > > > Joseph > > > > Kevin Toppenberg wrote: > > > This is the approach I would like to see go forward. > > > Build on the work of others rather than reinvent the > > > wheel. > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > --- Tom Munnecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Has anyone looked at Python? It looks like a > > >>nearest neighbor to > > >>MUMPS, with lots of similarities. I has an > > >>interesting dictionary > > >>capability, handles strings well, and a very strong > > >>object model. > > >>What about embedding M in Python? > > >> > > >> > > >>On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 14:41:10 -0800 (PST), Jim Self > > >> > > >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>>Terry L. Wiechmann wrote: > > >>>>If the community is going to revive the > > >> > > >>standardization process, it better > > >> > > >>>>have a 'vision' beyond the Millennium Standard. > > >>> > > >>>I am excited to think that things may be moving in > > >> > > >>that direction, but I think that > > >> > > >>>revival of a MUMPS standardization process may be > > >> > > >>premature. It must be balanced against > > >> > > >>>an active culture of innovation and language > > >> > > >>development that would otherwise result in > > >> > > >>>divergence and vendor lock-in. > > >>> > > >>>We have a beginning foundation for that in the > > >> > > >>existence of several open source > > >> > > >>>implementations of mumps, but so far it seems that > > >> > > >>very few people are involved in > > >> > > >>>innovation at the language level, even to the > > >> > > >>point of informally discussing language > > >> > > >>>enhancements for experimental implementation. > > >>> > > >>>>The fact is MUMPS is > > >>>>perceived as an old procedural language. It's > > >> > > >>viewed as dead by the > > >> > > >>>>'outside' world. > > >>> > > >>>Before GT.M was released for GNU/Linux MUMPS > > >> > > >>seemed very close to dead for many of the > > >> > > >>>rest of us as well. > > >>> > > >>>>If you want to get new blood involved, the goals > > >> > > >>for the > > >> > > >>>>language will have to show an evolution towards > > >> > > >>what the rest of the world > > >> > > >>>>wants, not what makes the existing MUMPS > > >> > > >>community comfortable. > > >> > > >>>I agree with this to some extent. People who care > > >> > > >>about long term viability of a MUMPS > > >> > > >>>community must find and embrace a path to enabling > > >> > > >>new applications and ways of doing > > >> > > >>>things with existing applications that includes > > >> > > >>easy coexistence and cooperation with > > >> > > >>>applications and parts of applications written in > > >> > > >>other languages. > > >> > > >>>The main thing that needs to be shown to new > > >> > > >>people is evidence of compelling value in > > >> > > >>>learning MUMPS and committing the time and effort > > >> > > >>to building new applications and in > > >> > > >>>extending and fixing old ones to fit with newer > > >> > > >>technologies - especially the web. > > >> > > >>>>Its future > > >>>>must be viewed as in step with existing > > >> > > >>technologies. Without climbing into > > >> > > >>>>the pulpit, I think everyone knows the direction > > >> > > >>it must take :-) > > >> > > >>>Yes, indeed, but there may be more than one. ;-) > > >> > > >>The obvious need in my view is for > > >> > > >>>language features to facilitate development of web > > >> > > >>based applications and an easy mix with > > >> > > >>>other programming languages and OS features. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>--------------------------------------- > > >>>Jim Self > > >>>Systems Architect, Lead Developer > > >>>VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis > > >>>(http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself) > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >>>SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > > >>>Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT > > >> > > >>Products from real users. > > >> > > >>>Discover which products truly live up to the hype. > > >> > > >>Start reading now. > > >> > > >>>http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ > > >>>_______________________________________________ > > >>>Hardhats-members mailing list > > >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >>SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > > >>Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT > > >>Products from real users. > > >>Discover which products truly live up to the hype. > > >>Start reading now. > > >>http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ > > >>_______________________________________________ > > >>Hardhats-members mailing list > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! > > > http://my.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. 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