Could you please give those of us who have no idea about CCOW what it is and 
why one wants/needs it?

On Sunday 26 December 2004 11:06 pm, David Sommers wrote:
> Now this is the stuff that I do know... :)
>
> Sentillion will give you a license for software integration and
> development against any of their CCOW installations.  The VA has a
> license for Sentillion CCOW on the enterprise, so I (the vendor) don't
> have to pay to use CCOW (outside a nominal one-time fee).
>
> But as a hospital, you'd have to license CCOW for your site which
> consists of not only client-side software but hardware running the "CCOW
> Vaults".  These Vaults maintain CCOW Connection information and state
> across all your clients (and that's where your client-side software
> connects to).
>
> Now I don't know the costs for a hospital, but for someone integrating
> with an existing Sentillion site - it's not too bad at all.
>
> Now CCOW is not required for CPRS and VistA Imaging (yet).  If you don't
> have the CCOW components installed, the software will bypass the CCOW
> check and continue working in "legacy".  If a system (such as
> HealtheVet) requires CCOW access, we could work three solutions.
>
> 1) Remove CCOW and use another means of transferring the patient link.
> 2) Implement a different CCOW product (that's made from scratch or Open
> Source).
> 3) Talk to Sentillion.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> /David.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy
> E. Anthracite
> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 10:21 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components
>
> In the past, Sentillion would send you a developers trial copy of the
> software.  You have to fill out a form as I recall, then I think they
> call
> you and mail it to you if you pass muster.  I got a copy once to use
> with
> VistAImaging, and then never got the Accusoft software so I haven't used
> it
> (yet?).  It took quite a while to get it as I recall - I think something
> like
> 4-6 weeks,but I could be wrong about the that.
>
> On Sunday 26 December 2004 05:06 pm, Cameron Schlehuber wrote:
> > The CCOW components for VistA are all based on Sentillion work and
>
> have the
>
> > following notice at the beginning of all the documentation (which
>
> means
>
> > it's not available through FOIA):
> >
> > Notice to Government Users
> > The Sentillion product suite is commercial computer software that
>
> includes
>
> > commercial documentation, manuals, and related technical data. The
> > development of this commercial software was privately funded, with no
> > government funding, therefore, the only rights that the Government has
>
> to
>
> > this commercial computer software are those specified in the
>
> applicable
>
> > Government license agreement. The Software and documentation provided
> > therewith are provided with RESTRICTED RIGHTS. Use, duplication, or
> > disclosure by the United States Government is subject to the
>
> restrictions
>
> > as set forth in Federal Acquisition Regulation 12.212 for civilian
>
> agencies
>
> > and Defense Federal Acquisition Regulation 227.7202 for military
>
> agencies.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>
> Joseph
>
> > Dal Molin
> > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 2:47 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components
> >
> > I think you can point Google to any website and search for things like
> > that ZIP file....
> >
> > J.
> >
> > krishna meera wrote:
> > > Is any one know from which folder, i will get the file called
> > > OSLC_IG.ZIP from the ftp site of vista.I think it contains the
> > > instructions for installing ccow components
> > >
> > > krishna
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Nancy E. Anthracite"
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components
> > > Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:50:46 +0000
> > >
> > >  > Please look at my email of 12-25 at 11:47 and Fil Beza's email
>
> that
>
> > >  > immediately follow it RE the MPI and calling Austin. Go to this
>
> site.http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=hardhats-members
>
> > >  > There is a search function here as well, so you will often be
>
> able to
>
> > > find
> > >
> > >  > answers to questions that have to do with CPRS, etc., that way.
> > >  > Unfortunately, there is not much about HealteVet Desktop as that
>
> is a
>
> > >  > relatively new subject. I understand that HealtheVet desktop has
> > >
> > > relatively
> > >
> > >  > limited functionality at this time and there will not be a full
> > >  > fledged replacement for CPRS done in Java by the VA until the
>
> middle
>
> > >  > of next
> > >
> > > year at
> > >
> > >  > the best, so you might consider using CPRS for now if you are
> > >
> > > planning to try
> > >
> > >  > to do anything with it any time soon. I noted there are something
>
> in
>
> > the
> >
> > >  > order of 1600 RPC Broker calls. There is a lot of work to be done
>
> yet.
>
> > >  > Also, to find out about adding a physician and giving him the
>
> proper
>
> > > keys and
> > >
> > >  > permissions, look at http://www.geocities.com/kdtop3/ and the
> > >
> > > Post-Install
> > >
> > >  > notes section. I will send you another document that is only
>
> partially
>
> > >  > complete and I will also send Kevin to put on his site that
>
> includes
>
> > >  > my initial explorations of the Clinical Coordinators job, person
>
> class
>
> > >  > and provider class, or something like that. I think giving
>
> yourself
>
> > >  > the
> > >
> > > ORES key
> > >
> > >  > and assigning provider status in file 200 will help.
> > >  >
> > >  > On Sunday 26 December 2004 10:33 am, rev athy wrote:
> > >  > > Iam trying to install the Healthevet desktop framework in
>
> vista,
>
> > >  > > using the cache database,vistalink also installed
> > >  > > At the time of adding a patient where the datas are saving ? in
> > >  > > Austin or in the localhost M'server?
> > >  > >
> > >  > > After adding the patient also the healthevet desktop shows as
>
> 'no
>
> > >  > > patient found" is it because of not admitting the patient ? i
>
> tried
>
> > >  > > that also but at the end of the admitting process it asks for
>
> a"
>
> > >  > > PRIMARY PHYSICIAN:" I added a provider to it but its not
>
> taking, it
>
> > > says
> > >
> > >  > > "select active providers only"
> > >  > > which command gives us the active providers ?
> > >  > >
> > >  > > at the time of adding a patient also it shows the error like
>
> "Could
>
> > >  > > not connect to MPI or Timed Out".
> > >  > >
> > >  > > what we have to do to install the CCOW components in HealtheVet
> > >
> > > Desktop
> > >
> > >  > > framework? Is there any documentation? do i need any other
> > >
> > > configuration to
> > >
> > >  > > get the chart view in healthevet desktop components
> > >  > >
> > >  > > can anyone help me
> > >  > >
> > >  > > revathy
> > >  > >
> > >  > >
> > >  > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >  > > From: "Nancy E. Anthracite"
> > >  > > To: [email protected]
> > >  > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components
> > >  > > Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 15:08:39 -0500
> > >  > >
> > >  > > > Believe me, you do not want to connect to Austin. That is the
>
> US
>
> > >  > > > Department of Veteran's Affairs Master Patient Index.
>
> Eventually,
>
> > > you
> > >
> > >  > > > may want your own MPI. For now, let it time out, and I am
>
> sure
>
> > > someone
> > >
> > >  > > > will post a solution to that problem. At one time, I found
> >
> > someplace
> >
> > >  > > > where in the code the amount of time it was supposed to wait
>
> was
>
> > > entered
> > >
> > >  > > > and I wondered if just making that very short would be
>
> sufficient
>
> > >  > > > particularly as it would allow them to put in their own MPI
> > >
> > > sometime in
> > >
> > >  > > > the future. Perhaps someone knows if this would suffice.
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > > On Saturday 25 December 2004 01:20 pm, rev athy wrote:
> > >  > > > > kevin,
> > >  > > > > when iam trying to connect to the clinicians dashboard i
>
> will be
>
> > >  > > > > getting the following result.. ""......Attempting to
>
> connect to
>
> > > the
> > >
> > >  > > > > Master Patient Index in Austin... If no SSN or inexact DOB
>
> or
>
> > > common
> > >
> > >  > > > > name, this request may take some time, please be patient...
> > >  > > > >
> > >  > > > > Could not connect to MPI or Timed Out, assigning local ICN
>
> (if
>
> > not
> >
> > >  > > > > already assig ned).........""
> > >  > > > >
> > >  > > > > How can i make a connection with Austin
> > >  > > > >
> > >  > > > > revathy
> > >  > > > >
> > >  > > > >
> > >  > > > >
> > >  > > > >
> > >  > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >  > > > > From: "Kevin Toppenberg"
> > >  > > > > To: [email protected]
> > >  > > > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop
>
> Components
>
> > >  > > > > Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:08:21 -0800 (PST)
> > >  > > > >
> > >  > > > > > Nancy,
> > >  > > > > >
> > >  > > > > > When you see the phrase "allows any language to use
> > >  > > > > > Broker", this usually means that they have developed a
> > >  > > > > > COM object. Most languages have methods to interface
> > >  > > > > > with a COM object. If you are using visual basic, and
> > >  > > > > > the COM object has been registered, then the object is
> > >  > > > > > probably already available in VB.
> > >  > > > > >
> > >  > > > > > Kevin
> > >  > > > > >
> > >  > > > > > --- "Nancy E. Anthracite"
> > >  > > > > >
> > >  > > > > > wrote:
> > >  > > > > > > I noted this version of documentation for the Broker
> > >  > > > > > > Development Kit that is a bit newer than what is on
> > >  > > > > > > www.Hardhats.org and it mentions an API in there that
> > >
> > > "allows any
> > >
> > >  > > > > > > language to use Broker". I don't know enough about this
>
> to
>
> > > know if
> > >
> > >  > > > > > > this documentation will help, or even if it is
>
> significantly
>
> > >  > > > > > > different from the 1997 documentation, but maybe it
>
> will
>
> > >  > > help. > > > > There is more documentation in that same
>
> directory
>
> > >  > > that might help
> > >  > >
> > >  > > > > > > as well.
>
> http://www.va.gov/vdl/VistA_Lib/Infrastructure/Remote_Proc_Call_Broke
>
> > >  > > > > >r_(R PC)/xwb1_1p26dg.pdf
> > >  > > > > >
> > >  > > > > > > On Saturday 25 December 2004 08:21 am, rev athy
> > >  > > > > > >
> > >  > > > > > > wrote:
> > >  > > > > > > > hello,
> > >  > > > > > > > I installed cache database and now iam trying to
> > >  > > > > > >
> > >  > > > > > > integrate the
> > >  > > > > > >
> > >  > > > > > > > caremanagement and cprs modules to HealtheVet
> > >  > > > > > >
> > >  > > > > > > desktop framework.I started
> > >  > > > > > >
> > >  > > > > > > > the framework but not getting any patients to
> > >  > > > > > >
> > >  > > > > > > select from the database . I
> > >  > > > > > >
> > >  > > > > > > > already added patients into the database now also
> > >  > > > > > >
> > >  > > > > > > it shows like "no patiens
> > >  > > > > > >
> > >  > > > > > > > to select" then i can't be able to see the
> > >  > > > > > >
> > >  > > > > > > functionalities of that
> > >  > > > > > >
> > >  > > > > > > > framework. But i added the perspectives using
> > >  > > > > > >
> > >  > > > > > > ORRCMM but patients are not
> > >  > > > > > >
> > >  > > > > > > > getting , Now i will be in the middle way no idea
> > >  > > > > > >
> > >  > > > > > > what to do next with
> > >  > > > > > >
> > >  > > > > > > > it.can any one please help me to get out of this
> > >  > > > > > >
> > >  > > > > > > problem.
> > >  > > > > > >
> > >  > > > > > > > Thank you
> > >  > > > > > > > ammassurya
> > >  > > > > > >
> > >  > > > > > > -- Nancy Anthracite
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