I am getting into this discussion all late and I don't even know how the topic went into Iran, womens rights, and islamophobia. I will just address a few points Iran does not treat fairly. I am from Afghanistan never been there raised in America but I know that Afghans don't treat women fairly either. But that's not because of religious reasons its cultural. I would argue with older afghans about certain rights in islam that are given to women but they don't want to accept it because it breaks their comfort level. So I am sure Iran and most countries in that area have similar issues with rights and culture. If you don't accept that or understand that then you just don't like accepting realities of the situation.
And Islamophobia is definitely very real. I don't want to get all into conspiracy theories into why its real and all that but if for nothing else it makes entertaining news to scare people about islam. Its kinda like how crime has gone down but reporting of it has increased giving perception of it rising. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 10:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [H] Failure Cars Standard with Wings was.... >From: "G.Waleed Kavalec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: The Hardware List <[email protected]> >To: "The Hardware List" <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [H] Failure Cars Standard with Wings was.... >Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 12:32:15 -0600 > >In other words, forget about the rest of the majority islamic nations and > > instead just pay attention to Indonesia, > >No, just try looking at Islam as perceived in machismo countries vs. the >way >it manifests in non-machismo countries. Lo and behold! we discover that >cutlures carry their own baggage whereas faith can only be internalized by >individuals; but I don't expect you to understand that. Or acknowledge it >even if you do. In other words, forget about the rest of how majority islamic nations treat women and instead just pay attention to Indonesia. Broken record here? > > And now muslim women are back to being property again. Funny that. 80 > > lashes > > for you! > >Again, your sources have an islamophobic bias so don't bother with spewing >their garbage here. Is posting printed woman-hating laws of these woman-hating countries considered bias as well? Is ANYTHING pointing out blatant human rights abuses against the islamic world "biased" and "islamophobic" to you? The only gargbage here are the countries that sanction these human rights abuses and the people who refuse to acknowledge accounts their existence.
