Brian,
Thank you for the share, but, I have quibbles.
para1: I will not have the benefits of UEFI bios until I upgrade my
m/b's to my new Z77 models, along
with their new i5-3570K cpus.
I still run XP on P65 C2D m/b's. So, OLD BIOS. I did try to use AHCI in
bios when I built these PCs.
It did not work well at all. I backed off to ESDI and have run for the
past 4yrs w/SATA EM drives and opticals.
And, yes, I have never loaded/used my Asus/JMicron drivers. So, adding an
SSD to my current PCs is confusing. Especially with what Steve is
dealing with.
para2: I assume that 'gpartd' is an open-source linux program. I do not
haveit. I am Win-blows locked on
XPpro. Yes, I do have Win7pro for my new(pending) Z77 systems.
para3: Yes, I accept cloning sw to move old sw to new SSD. Yet I am not
convinced that the cloning sw
included with a Samsung Pro 840 SSD is completely solid, so I remain on
the fence.
Thanks again for your share,
Duncan
On 05/18/2013 11:14, Brian Weeden wrote:
If anything things have gotten easier. I just built two new systems in the last
6 months. A lot of the tweaking needed to get a system running is no longer
needed. UEFI is a lot better than the old BIOS.
If you're installing Windows, it does all the partition stuff for you. If you
want to do something creative or manual, I suggest getting a program called
Gparted and putting it on a bootable USB or disc.
If you are upgrading to a new drive, you need to use some cloning software to
avoid the problems with changing the drive mapping. I just upgraded to a
bigger Samsung SSD and it came with cloning software.
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Brian
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On May 18, 2013, at 10:12, DSinc <[email protected]> wrote:
Steve,
Thanks for the view of your conversion/installation. You have demonstrated my
biggest fear of
moving forward until I create a roadmap of "How to..." with what to use, why
use it, what to expect.
It has been 4 years since I have built a PC from scratch. I recall in the
good-ole-days, we all used
a program post Format to set a Primary, Active partition. All other partitions
were set to Extended NTFS.
Sadly, I have forgotten the name of this program and don't even know if I still
have it archived.
Now I just use the Windows install media to create (I believe?) the 'new'
initial Primary and Active
partition and then use the Disk Manager in the Administrative tools post
install to add/shape the remaining
partitions.
It does seem to me that you could possibly edit your boot.ini file to point
Windows back to whichever drive you choose to
boot from. I have done this in the dim past with some success.
From your decription, Your old EM drive is/was your %SystemRoot%; and, it
contained partitions c:\ and d:\. And,
I read that your new SSD is now e:\. Am I correct?
Otherwise, I am very confused!
Duncan
On 05/18/2013 07:03, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
Understood that a fresh install will align everything for the fastest
performance. However, Windows here just made sure that it loaded everything
from the old drive. For some reason, it never bothered trying to load Windows
from the SSD.
On 5/17/2013 9:06 PM, Dave Gibney wrote:
My laptop drive was giving me signs of eminent failure. I has a local guy
install a SAMSUG SSD and clone to it. It worked, but I wasn't happy with all
the results.
The next weekend, I did a fresh install Win-7 Ultimate, Office 2010, etc.
Cycling through all the updates and getting the drivers up to date took a
while, but no real problems.
It is much faster on boot and the quiet is scary :)
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Subject: [H] The SSD and how Windows can make your life miserable
Last weekend I cloned my main drive over to an SSD and then booted. Some
things looked faster, but I wasn't blown away by the speed. I have found
out why. It began on Patch Tuesday. 4 of 6 patches failed.
Windows update threw some errors, but as I had a design review coming up at
work, I was too buys obsessing about that to work on it. Today, a day off!
I decided to look into the errors. Ran update again, same problems.
Searching on the errors, it seemed to indicate that Update has a problem
when you move stuff from C: somewhere else, like when you install an SSD.
The only thing I really fudged with there is that I moved the Temp and Tmp
folders. I moved them back, same problem. I wondered if I didn't do
something else and forgot about it. Back to System and Advanced Settings.
This time I looked a the lower half of the window. Half of my windows
variables were pointing to my old boot drive which is now E: ! When I
booted to the SSD the first time, I kept the old boot drive in the system,
just changed the boot order in the BIOS. Wrong! Windows apparently got
confused and I ended up with a mishmash. My %systemroot% was now E instead
of C!
Just a word of caution. Going to clone the drive again (it wouldn't boot
properly on it's own) and this time remove the old drive. Well, that's how
ya learn....
Steve
