Ok you win, cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud yay.
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 05:04:46PM -0400, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
> Bryan,
>
> I'm surprised at you. You're attempting to bully people into using YOUR
> preferred terminology. But saying that use of terminology is not in
> practice by those who are technical is total nonsense. Just look at all
> these research papers that use the term "cloud storage".
>
> http://xplorebcpaz.ieee.org/search/freesearchresult.jsp?newsearch=true&queryText=cloud+storage&x=0&y=0
>
> On 3/31/2011 4:31 PM, Bryan Seitz wrote:
> > I did not mean it as an attack, I was just saying this is a technical list
> > and we all believe
> > we are technical, so no reason to perpatuate bad nomenclature.
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 04:00:44PM -0400, Brian Weeden wrote:
> >> Thanks for the personal attack. It really lends credibility to your
> >> argument.
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Brian
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Bryan Seitz<[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Good point but but on a technical list (And I assume you think you are
> >>> technical),
> >>> I would expect the buzzwords to be less frequent. Even if your data is on
> >>> a server or
> >>> a bunch of servers it could just as easily be called remote/online backup.
> >>> The term Cloud
> >>> is purely marketing bullshit at this poing. Products that have been
> >>> around
> >>> for ages started
> >>> calling themselves cloud even though nothing had changed.
> >>>
> >>> Ps. Actually Amazon is not scattered that much, usually local to a single
> >>> datacenter and lucky
> >>> if you have 3 copies, I worked there :)
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:59:52PM -0400, Brian Weeden wrote:
> >>>> The reason to use "cloud": is to convey that it is a service that isn't
> >>> tied
> >>>> to a specific machine or set of machines. Even if you use "online server
> >>>> storage" that still infers that a specific computer or cluster of
> >>> computers
> >>>> somewhere has the data. And if that computer dies, the data is gone.
> >>>>
> >>>> The whole point with a cloud-based system is to separate the service
> >>>> (processing power, data storage, whatever) from the hardware. Gmail is a
> >>>> cloud-based service, and as a user you have no clue where the data is
> >>>> physically stored, where the processing is done, or how it gets to you
> >>> And
> >>>> in the case of a true cloud (like Google, Amazon, Rackspace, etc) the
> >>> data
> >>>> is likely scattered everywhere, across multiple
> >>> backbones/grids/continents.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Bryan G. Seitz
> >>>
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Bryan G. Seitz
