Dear HCP experts,

Even with fsl 5.0.6 installation and copying all the required files (fsf
(level1 and 2) files and EV files to respective participant's folder) I am
not able to run past level 2 analysis. I guess you are able to do it since
your data is already minimally pre-processed but the Gambling data that I
downloaded from the connectome DB is an unprocessed data. I will send the
error file later in the day as I need to run it again. But am more than
willing to run the HCP pipeline scripts to get it running again.

Much thanks and regards,

Sampada



P.S. Will you please let me know how long does it take for the task
analysis to complete?


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Glasser, Matthew <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [HCP-Users] Regarding: fsl version 5.0.6
To: Dr Sampada Sinha <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>


 I guess I’m still unclear about the difficulty you encountered was—since
this all works perfectly for us over here for HCP data (were you trying to
use your own data or something?).  If there is an issue with the
instructions (something unclear or that lead to a misunderstanding) we’d
really like to know what it was so that we can improve the instructions.
Running the volume-based FSL FEAT on HCP data is not recommended and wastes
the efforts that were put into acquiring high spatial and temporal
resolution HCP data and processing it carefully—you basically lose the
benefits of the HCP data over previous approaches.

 Otherwise, it’s worth noting that if one is starting from the minimally
preprocessed task fMRI HCP packages, one does not need to copy any files
around—the task fMRI analysis pipelines will simply run (assuming you set
up their input variables correctly).  If one is starting completely from
scratch—the raw data—one needs to copy the EV files and .fsf files into the
correct locations, as specified in the instructions.

 Generally though, one does not actually even need to run this task fMRI
analysis pipeline for HCP data, as we provide already analyzed CIFTI
grayordinates packages without additional smoothing.

 Peace,

 Matt.

  From: Dr Sampada Sinha <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, April 16, 2015 at 4:18 PM
To: Matt Glasser <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>

Subject: Re: [HCP-Users] Regarding: fsl version 5.0.6

   Dear HCP experts,

 Thank you very much for your prompt and sincere reply! I did follow all
the instructions described in the release notes at:


https://github.com/Washington-University/Pipelines/wiki/v3.4.0-Release-Notes,-Installation,-and-Usage#task-analysis
 .

 But the process is not running inspite of placing the fsf (level 1) and
the EV files in their respective subdirectory and level 2 sf file in the
final common pathway. So I started with the feat analysis using fsl instead
of using the pipelines (though it did help and saved me a lot of time to go
through each process separately otherwise).

 If I have questions ,I would send email to you again.Thank you so much
again!

 Kind regards!

 Sampada

On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Glasser, Matthew <[email protected]>
wrote:

>  Hi Tim,
>
>  I thought the packages already have the files in the correct locations?
> I don’t do any copying when I pull the data locally.
>
>  Will be sending you a separate e-mail off list about the pipeline, as
> additional changes are required and it might be a good time to pull in some
> new features.
>
>  Thanks,
>
>  Matt.
>
>   From: "Timothy B. Brown" <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Date: Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 12:20 PM
> To: Matt Glasser <[email protected]>, Dr Sampada Sinha <
> [email protected]>, "[email protected]" <
> [email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [HCP-Users] Regarding: fsl version 5.0.6
>
>    FSL v5.0.6 is currently a specific prerequisite for the pipeline
> scripts. There is a version of the task analysis scripts that is currently
> in the review process that should work with both FSL v5.0.6 and FSL v5.0.7
> and above. I hope to be able to release it soon.
>
> I may be mistaken, but I believe the file copying that is being referred
> to is just that necessary to get the FEAT setup files (FSF files) in the
> right locations to do the Task Analysis as is described in the release
> notes at:
>
>
> https://github.com/Washington-University/Pipelines/wiki/v3.4.0-Release-Notes,-Installation,-and-Usage#task-analysis
>
> Best Regards,
>   Tim
>
> On Sat, Apr 11, 2015, at 12:57, Glasser, Matthew wrote:
>
> We do need to get a version of this code compatible with current FSL out,
> but it is true that the code won’t run properly with FSL version greater
> than 5.0.6.
>
> All of this copying of files seems concerning, as it should not be
> necessary.  You should simply be able to run the script if you have
> downloaded the appropriate package data.
>
> Peace,
>
> Matt.
>
>  From: Dr Sampada Sinha <[email protected]>
> Date: Saturday, April 11, 2015 at 11:51 AM
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: [HCP-Users] Regarding: fsl version 5.0.6
>
>   Dear HCP experts,
>
> I am trying to run first level Gambling task analysis. I copied and
> pasted the templates of feat setup files (found in Examples/Scripts) to the 
> MNINonlinear/Results/fMRI_GAMBLING_LR(
> or _RL) respective directory (number of time points were same as the
> corresponding scans:253). Next I copied and pasted copy of E-Prime EV files
> in the MNINonLinear/Results subdirectory. I am getting the following error
> now (highlighted below):
>
>  Last login: Sat Apr 11 09:32:36 on ttys002
> rmbp:~ Sampada$ export FREESURFER_HOME=/Applications/freesurfer
> rmbp:~ Sampada$ source $FREESURFER_HOME/SetUpFreeSurfer.sh
> -------- freesurfer-Darwin-lion-stable-pub-v5.3.0 --------
> Setting up environment for FreeSurfer/FS-FAST (and FSL)
> FREESURFER_HOME   /Applications/freesurfer
> FSFAST_HOME       /Applications/freesurfer/fsfast
> FSF_OUTPUT_FORMAT nii.gz
> SUBJECTS_DIR      /Applications/freesurfer/subjects
> MNI_DIR           /Applications/freesurfer/mni
> FSL_DIR           /Applications/fsl
> rmbp:~ Sampada$ cd /Volumes/HCP_Data/Pipelines-3.4.0/Examples/Scripts/
> rmbp:Scripts Sampada$ ./TaskfMRIAnalysisBatch.sh
> This script must be SOURCED to correctly setup the environment prior to
> running any of the other HCP scripts contained here
>
> 2
>   tfMRI_GAMBLING
>     LS2001
> About to use fsl_sub to queue or run
> /Volumes/HCP_data/Pipelines-3.4.0/TaskfMRIAnalysis/TaskfMRIAnalysis.sh
> This script, TaskfMRILevel1.sh, assumes fslmaths behavior that is
> available in version 5.0.6 of FSL. You are using FSL version 5.0.8. Please
> install FSL version 5.0.6 before continuing.
> This script, TaskfMRILevel1.sh, assumes fslmaths behavior that is
> available in version 5.0.6 of FSL. You are using FSL version 5.0.8. Please
> install FSL version 5.0.6 before continuing.
> cat:
> /Volumes/HCP_Data/taskfMRI_Gambling/LS2001/MNINonLinear/Results/tfMRI_GAMBLING/tfMRI_GAMBLING_hp200_s4_level2.fsf:
> No such file or directory
> Can't find key fmri(level)
> set -- --path=/Volumes/HCP_Data/taskfMRI_Gambling         --subject=LS2001
>         --lvl1tasks=tfMRI_GAMBLING_RL@tfMRI_GAMBLING_LR
> --lvl1fsfs=tfMRI_GAMBLING_RL@tfMRI_GAMBLING_LR
> --lvl2task=tfMRI_GAMBLING         --lvl2fsf=tfMRI_GAMBLING
> --lowresmesh=32         --grayordinatesres=2         --origsmoothingFWHM=2
>         --confound=NONE         --finalsmoothingFWHM=2
> --temporalfilter=200         --vba=NO
> . /Volumes/HCP_Data/Pipelines-3.4.0/Examples/Scripts/SetUpHCPPipeline.sh
> rmbp:Scripts Sampada$
> …...          …..          …..            …..              …..
> ……..            …..
>
> Do I need to download fsl version 5.0.6 now as well to run the task
> analysis?
>
> Can I get any feedback please about the process which I followed from the
> HCP site and if I need to put the copied EV files in the respective
> subdirectories or LINKED_DATA files into the MNINonlinear/Results/taskfMRI
> directory?
>
> Also, if I can get performance score of Gambling task, based upon which
> we plan to separate out the regions depending on the score.
>
> Appreciate all your help so far!
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Sampada
>
>
> P.S.: Sorry about the font last time. I copied and pasted my question from
> the notes (which has an artsy font by default!)
>
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> University of Minnesota (East Bank)
> Molecular and neuroimaging laboratory
> Department of Psychiatry
> Minneapolis-55415
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University of Minnesota (East Bank)
Molecular and neuroimaging laboratory
Department of Psychiatry
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