Thank you very much! This is very helpful.
Two small problems remain before running palm on surface data: 1) I cannot download the left and right 32k midthickness meshes from the site linked to in the examples page: ie. https://github.com/Washington-University/Pipelines/blob/master/global/templates/standard_mesh_atlases/resample_fsaverage/fs_LR.L.midthickness_va_avg.32k_fs_LR.shape.gii 2) I get errors when I try to get average areas for the -s option. When I use -surface-vertex-areas on an individual subjects for example I get the following: command: wb_command -surface-vertex-areas data_L.func.gii error: ERROR: Number of data arrays MUST be two in a SurfaceFile. I am again not sure what this error means and I have not found any information about it or how to resolve it. All the other steps are super well explained and demonstrated, but then the three steps using wb_command on how to find average areas of gii files are quickly passed over. Is there any explanation on how that might work? Thank you! Michael ________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Anderson M. Winkler <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 5:39:12 AM To: Michael F.W. Dreyfuss Cc: Dierker, Donna; [email protected] Subject: Re: [HCP-Users] Palm with TFCE on Cifti data Hi Michael, Please see an example in this page: https://fsl.fmrib.ox.ac.uk/fsl/fslwiki/PALM/Examples<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__fsl.fmrib.ox.ac.uk_fsl_fslwiki_PALM_Examples&d=DQMFaQ&c=lb62iw4YL4RFalcE2hQUQealT9-RXrryqt9KZX2qu2s&r=rPclmYysc_z1plf99IoNsmxWf1JolkKMmL6bXnYFSwg&m=sPzxLm_SMMk5275scURO0sERCdJS6N76AckPIzYZyXE&s=1VAqCh8ViCwPk9iSx03nPlQ4XvNFdEQYQ-SGgB3Ywk0&e=> The Example 9 is for simple statistics on brainordinates (no spatial statistics) and Example 10 is for TFCE and cluster-level inference. Thanks to Tim Coalson for the help with the wb_command options. Hope this helps! All the best, Anderson On 15 September 2016 at 07:21, Anderson M. Winkler <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi Michael, TFCE needs to be run separately for the surface-based and for the volume-based parts of the CIFTI file. This means that the input file has to be separated using wb_command, then PALM be executed, then the results need to be corrected via Bonferroni or Šidák. I will add hopefully today still a section in the documentation with the steps and update here. Also, although it's unrelated to this error, Donna is right: the extension for the -t option wasn't supplied correctly. All the best, Anderson On 15 September 2016 at 06:22, Michael F.W. Dreyfuss <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Thank you, The $ContrastName is the argument of the -o option, so it is just the name designated for the output. There are no csv files unless you mean the .mat and .con files which are the arguments of -d and -t respectively for the design files and contrast files. Since it is a group average, it actually runs without the contrast file as well. Again, this whole command runs fine and gives reasonable output with the -fdr flag instead of -T, but I would like to be able to run TFCE here. Has the -T option been used with palm on cifti data successfully? Maybe it is not meant is only for use on volumetric data? Thanks a lot, Michael ________________________________ From: Dierker, Donna <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:09:04 PM To: Michael F.W. Dreyfuss Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [HCP-Users] Palm with TFCE on Cifti data Michael, if $ContrastName is a csv file, make sure its extension is csv. I’ve gotten errors like that before when I named it .con. > On Sep 14, 2016, at 11:29 AM, Michael F.W. Dreyfuss > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Hello, I am trying to run palm on cifti data with TFCE to find mean > activation across a group. When I use the -T flag, the program crashed with > the error: > > Command: > palm -i ${ContrastName}.dtseries.nii -transposedata -d > $LevelThreeFEATDir/design.mat -o $ContrastName -t > /tmp/CtxFGNG/CtxFGNG_Level3_Analysis/desion -T -ise > > Error: > 0.01% [Design 1/1, Contrast 1/1, Shuffling 1/10000, Modality 1/1] > Saving file: FoodNogo_dat_tstat > Index exceeds matrix dimensions. > > Error in palm_tfce (line 77) > elseif plm.Yisvtx(y) || plm.Yisfac(y), > > Error in palm_core (line 1680) > Gtfce{y}{m}{c} = > tfcefunc(G{y}{m}{c},y,opts,plm); > > Error in palm (line 81) > palm_core(varargin{:}); > > > Alternatively, if I use the same command, but replace -T with -fdr, the > program runs smoothly, so I do not think the problem is with my design files > or data unless they need to be generated in a special way for TFCE using > palm. 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